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Delaware passes popular vote in attempt to change EC
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:03 am
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:03 am
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Delaware House Passes Bill to Give State’s Electoral College Votes to National Popular Vote Winner
Delaware joins the 12 other states along with the District of Columbia (3 EC votes) to join the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.
SO that is now 13 states and DC
LINK
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:03 am to Jjdoc
Leftists still don't understand civics.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:04 am to Jjdoc
The funny thing about how it's all blue states doing this is they're giving a Republican the only chance they would have of winning that state.
A Republican is never going to win Connecticut, Delaware, etc but now that these states want to leave it to the national popular vote a Republican has a chance.
These idiots can't see the forest for the trees.
A Republican is never going to win Connecticut, Delaware, etc but now that these states want to leave it to the national popular vote a Republican has a chance.
These idiots can't see the forest for the trees.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:06 am to Jjdoc
I will laugh hard when Trump wins the popular vote in 2020.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:07 am to The Boat
quote:
The funny thing about how it's all blue states doing this is they're giving a Republican the only chance they would have of winning that state.
I can't wait for Trump to win the popular vote. The melt will be glorious.
There are tons of people in these states who do not vote, because their vote doesn't count.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:09 am to CoachChappy
quote:It counts even less now.
There are tons of people in these states who do not vote, because their vote doesn't count.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:09 am to Jjdoc
Don't want a voter id law because it's disenfranchising people, yet are willing to disenfranchise the whole state if the state happens to vote for a candidate that doesn't win the popular vote. I'm sure that's gonna hold up in court (well I'm sure it will hold up in the 9th circuit, but they get overturned every time)
This post was edited on 3/19/19 at 9:10 am
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:14 am to The Boat
Its going to be hilarious when Trump gets 450+ electoral votes in 2020 after a few million deep blue state Republicans go vote for the first time in decades because now they can feel like their vote actually matters. Will be even more hilarious if the Dem candidate would have had enough states to get 270 electoral votes had a bunch of blue states not changed their law to award their electoral votes to the popular vote winner.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:16 am to Jjdoc
Another rule/law passed by the left designed to give them the advantage that will end up biting them in the arse.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:16 am to Jjdoc
quote:Idiots. You’re a small state!
Delaware
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:21 am to Jjdoc
My question is if a republican wins the popular vote but loses the electoral vote would these same states abide by their own law they passed.
I'm guessing no, they would immediately break their own law proving just how hypocritical and pathetic they really are.
I'm guessing no, they would immediately break their own law proving just how hypocritical and pathetic they really are.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:24 am to Jjdoc
It is unconstitutional and will not stand...
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:24 am to Jjdoc
With the exception of Colorado the last time a Republican won any of these states was 1988. The backtracking will be glorious to watch if Trump wins the popular vote.
Connecticut - 1988
Hawaii – 1984
Illinois – 1988
Maryland – 1988
Massachusetts – 1984
New Jersey – 1988
Washington – 1984
Vermont – 1988
California – 1988
Rhode Island – 1984
New York – 1984
Colorado – 2004
DC - Never
Connecticut - 1988
Hawaii – 1984
Illinois – 1988
Maryland – 1988
Massachusetts – 1984
New Jersey – 1988
Washington – 1984
Vermont – 1988
California – 1988
Rhode Island – 1984
New York – 1984
Colorado – 2004
DC - Never
This post was edited on 3/19/19 at 9:27 am
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:29 am to Jjdoc
Such a mistake for Delaware.
No one need campaign there ever if this change happens.
Delaware was prime mover in the original idea.
The small states will not be heard from again.
Win about 10 states, and do California big as 2016 and you win.
Ny
NJ
Florida
Tex
California
Illinois
Ohio
Mich
Virginia
North carolina
"What's Wyoming" for $100, eh?
No one need campaign there ever if this change happens.
Delaware was prime mover in the original idea.
The small states will not be heard from again.
Win about 10 states, and do California big as 2016 and you win.
Ny
NJ
Florida
Tex
California
Illinois
Ohio
Mich
Virginia
North carolina
"What's Wyoming" for $100, eh?
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:34 am to CoachChappy
quote:
can't wait for Trump to win the popular vote. The melt will be glorious.
I guarantee the law will change real fast in Trump wins the popular vote
Posted on 3/19/19 at 10:16 am to JOJO Hammer
The law only goes into effect when/if the total EC votes of the States that did this reaches 270. Until then it means nothing.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 10:22 am to Tiger Prawn
This doesn't take effect until enough states with electoral votes totaling 270 or more pass this legislation.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 10:36 am to Jjdoc
Gonna be awesome when trump wins all 50 states in 2020
Posted on 3/19/19 at 10:59 am to The Boat
quote:
A Republican is never going to win Connecticut, Delaware, etc but now that these states want to leave it to the national popular vote a Republican has a chance
Shits gonna be like Reagan all over again...
The nutty part is, it means Trump can lose Wisconsin or Michigan and if he still wins the popular...it doesn't matter...
The Ds gotta know
Posted on 3/19/19 at 12:23 pm to Jjdoc
This movement makes no sense. The whole premise is to prevent someone who doesn't win a majority of the vote becoming president, which is something they see the EC as enabling.
However, when is the last time that a Presidential candidate actually won 50% of the popular vote? Even if Obama did it, it is not a common occurrence. Most modern elections are won with less than 50% of the vote. So what exactly is this compact solving?
This Popular Vote compact is just another method of allowing a minority of the population to elect the President. It is not a solution to the "injustice" of the EC, it is simply a replacement system that favors the other side. One could argue that in a situation where a 3rd party gains any significant portion of the vote (like Perot in 92), the popular vote compact will deliver an even more unjust result than the EC ever would have. Now you have an EC landslide for a guy who won 39% of the vote like Clinton did.
How is that better, or more just?
Tl;dr: Candidates hardly ever cross the 50% threshold. This compact does nothing but switch from the EC method to a more Democrat-favorable method of plurality voting.
However, when is the last time that a Presidential candidate actually won 50% of the popular vote? Even if Obama did it, it is not a common occurrence. Most modern elections are won with less than 50% of the vote. So what exactly is this compact solving?
This Popular Vote compact is just another method of allowing a minority of the population to elect the President. It is not a solution to the "injustice" of the EC, it is simply a replacement system that favors the other side. One could argue that in a situation where a 3rd party gains any significant portion of the vote (like Perot in 92), the popular vote compact will deliver an even more unjust result than the EC ever would have. Now you have an EC landslide for a guy who won 39% of the vote like Clinton did.
How is that better, or more just?
Tl;dr: Candidates hardly ever cross the 50% threshold. This compact does nothing but switch from the EC method to a more Democrat-favorable method of plurality voting.
This post was edited on 3/19/19 at 12:28 pm
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