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Delaware passes popular vote in attempt to change EC

Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:03 am
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:03 am
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Delaware House Passes Bill to Give State’s Electoral College Votes to National Popular Vote Winner



Delaware joins the 12 other states along with the District of Columbia (3 EC votes) to join the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

SO that is now 13 states and DC


LINK
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:03 am to
Leftists still don't understand civics.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164040 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:04 am to
The funny thing about how it's all blue states doing this is they're giving a Republican the only chance they would have of winning that state.

A Republican is never going to win Connecticut, Delaware, etc but now that these states want to leave it to the national popular vote a Republican has a chance.

These idiots can't see the forest for the trees.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21230 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:06 am to
I will laugh hard when Trump wins the popular vote in 2020.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32506 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:07 am to
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The funny thing about how it's all blue states doing this is they're giving a Republican the only chance they would have of winning that state.


I can't wait for Trump to win the popular vote. The melt will be glorious.

There are tons of people in these states who do not vote, because their vote doesn't count.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:09 am to
quote:

There are tons of people in these states who do not vote, because their vote doesn't count.

It counts even less now.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19670 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:09 am to
Don't want a voter id law because it's disenfranchising people, yet are willing to disenfranchise the whole state if the state happens to vote for a candidate that doesn't win the popular vote. I'm sure that's gonna hold up in court (well I'm sure it will hold up in the 9th circuit, but they get overturned every time)
This post was edited on 3/19/19 at 9:10 am
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21855 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:14 am to
Its going to be hilarious when Trump gets 450+ electoral votes in 2020 after a few million deep blue state Republicans go vote for the first time in decades because now they can feel like their vote actually matters. Will be even more hilarious if the Dem candidate would have had enough states to get 270 electoral votes had a bunch of blue states not changed their law to award their electoral votes to the popular vote winner.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6725 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:16 am to
Another rule/law passed by the left designed to give them the advantage that will end up biting them in the arse.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57090 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:16 am to
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Delaware
Idiots. You’re a small state!
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
14972 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:21 am to
My question is if a republican wins the popular vote but loses the electoral vote would these same states abide by their own law they passed.

I'm guessing no, they would immediately break their own law proving just how hypocritical and pathetic they really are.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8493 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:24 am to
It is unconstitutional and will not stand...
Posted by Phate
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
11723 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:24 am to
With the exception of Colorado the last time a Republican won any of these states was 1988. The backtracking will be glorious to watch if Trump wins the popular vote.

Connecticut - 1988
Hawaii – 1984
Illinois – 1988
Maryland – 1988
Massachusetts – 1984
New Jersey – 1988
Washington – 1984
Vermont – 1988
California – 1988
Rhode Island – 1984
New York – 1984
Colorado – 2004
DC - Never
This post was edited on 3/19/19 at 9:27 am
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:29 am to
Such a mistake for Delaware.
No one need campaign there ever if this change happens.
Delaware was prime mover in the original idea.

The small states will not be heard from again.
Win about 10 states, and do California big as 2016 and you win.
Ny
NJ
Florida
Tex
California
Illinois
Ohio
Mich
Virginia
North carolina

"What's Wyoming" for $100, eh?
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
11905 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:34 am to
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can't wait for Trump to win the popular vote. The melt will be glorious.


I guarantee the law will change real fast in Trump wins the popular vote
Posted by Toroballistic
Tallahassee
Member since Dec 2017
1899 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 10:16 am to
The law only goes into effect when/if the total EC votes of the States that did this reaches 270. Until then it means nothing.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 10:22 am to
This doesn't take effect until enough states with electoral votes totaling 270 or more pass this legislation.
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9713 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 10:36 am to
Gonna be awesome when trump wins all 50 states in 2020
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 10:59 am to
quote:


A Republican is never going to win Connecticut, Delaware, etc but now that these states want to leave it to the national popular vote a Republican has a chance


Shits gonna be like Reagan all over again...

The nutty part is, it means Trump can lose Wisconsin or Michigan and if he still wins the popular...it doesn't matter...

The Ds gotta know
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26056 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 12:23 pm to
This movement makes no sense. The whole premise is to prevent someone who doesn't win a majority of the vote becoming president, which is something they see the EC as enabling.

However, when is the last time that a Presidential candidate actually won 50% of the popular vote? Even if Obama did it, it is not a common occurrence. Most modern elections are won with less than 50% of the vote. So what exactly is this compact solving?

This Popular Vote compact is just another method of allowing a minority of the population to elect the President. It is not a solution to the "injustice" of the EC, it is simply a replacement system that favors the other side. One could argue that in a situation where a 3rd party gains any significant portion of the vote (like Perot in 92), the popular vote compact will deliver an even more unjust result than the EC ever would have. Now you have an EC landslide for a guy who won 39% of the vote like Clinton did.

How is that better, or more just?

Tl;dr: Candidates hardly ever cross the 50% threshold. This compact does nothing but switch from the EC method to a more Democrat-favorable method of plurality voting.
This post was edited on 3/19/19 at 12:28 pm
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