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Declaration of Independence
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:04 pm
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:06 pm to Scoop
Yes.
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This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:13 pm to Scoop
George III cannot hold a candle to the invasions and oppressions being visited upon the citizenry by Fed Gov.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:21 pm to Scoop
I don't know if Obama can help himself. He's just a product of the natural progression of a more and more oppressive national government beginning with Lincoln. The system can't be fixed.
We can expect the next president to be at least as oppressive to his adversaries as Obama is to his. The libs better hope it's not a GOP president or they'll be grabbing the ankles.
We can expect the next president to be at least as oppressive to his adversaries as Obama is to his. The libs better hope it's not a GOP president or they'll be grabbing the ankles.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:22 pm to udtiger
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George III cannot hold a candle to the invasions and oppressions being visited upon the citizenry by Fed Gov.
Pump the breaks here.
The Obama admin. is pretty bad, but George III did some terrible things to the colonies
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:32 pm to deltaland
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The Obama admin. is pretty bad, but George III did some terrible things to the colonies
That 3% tariff on tea was pretty damn bad.
ETA: correction 3% not 2%.
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:34 pm to deltaland
I am not limiting this statement to Obama
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:43 pm to Scoop
If the values of that document were still part of American society today then our nation would be in much better shape. Too bad... 
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:48 pm to deltaland
Even George III. would be astonished at the amount of the government abuse we've suffered at the hands of Obama/Bush/congress/ any other member of our federal bureaucrat overlords. Christ, imagine what the Founding Fathers would have thought about Feinstein/Pelosi.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:49 pm to Malik Agar
Dare I say it; those values were born out of a Christian nation.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:11 pm to GumboPot
quote:You dare not. America is not nor has never been a Christian nation.
Dare I say it; those values were born out of a Christian nation.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:17 pm to Scoop
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He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
What law did Obama veto that you consider to be "the most wholesome and necessary for the public good" ?
Just curious.
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:18 pm to JazzyJeff
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America is not nor has never been a Christian nation.
Then a nation formed by people that predominantly lived by Christian values. Is that better?
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:20 pm to GumboPot
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Then a nation formed by people that predominantly lived by Christian values. Is that better?
What distinguishes "Christian values" from the values the rest of us have?
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:27 pm to SpidermanTUba
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What distinguishes "Christian values" from the values the rest of us have?
Faith in God and Jesus as the final arbiter?
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:29 pm to GumboPot
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Faith in God and Jesus as the final arbiter?
OK. So what difference does that make in government?
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:29 pm to SpidermanTUba
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What distinguishes "Christian values" from the values the rest of us have?
The rest of "us" don't troll as well as you do.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:34 pm to SpidermanTUba
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OK. So what difference does that make in government?
Now that you're making me think about it a little, if people of the time of our founding lived true to Christian values there would not have been a need for government.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:32 am to GumboPot
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Now that you're making me think about it a little, if people of the time of our founding lived true to Christian values there would not have been a need for government.
Does "Christian values" mean you always agree with your neighbor? If you accidentally run over my cow with your horse drawn carriage and kill him, "Christian values" means we will automatically agree on what you owe me?
Even the most civil people disagree with one another.
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 12:33 am
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:39 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:No.
Does "Christian values" mean you always agree with your neighbor?
quote:No.
If you accidentally run over my cow with your horse drawn carriage and kill him, "Christian values" means we will automatically agree on what you owe me?
quote:A lovely truism.
Even the most civil people disagree with one another.
Shouldn't you be out looking for new planets, stars, or...aliens?
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