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Crowder had a huge melt over "Big Con" media.

Posted on 1/17/23 at 2:50 pm
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 2:50 pm
I have never really paid much attention to Crowder, but I saw this at patriots.win and thought it was an interesting glimpse into the behind the scenes of conservative/alt media. The video is him describing his adventure onto the free agent market of growing his platform and how he was shocked at whoever was going to own him now. I kind of rolled my eyes at him on the first few contractual items -- sure, they may want your merch and social media rights. But, then he got into the show and ad read numbers and whatever this was looks like a meat grinder. But, what is really gross is if you get deplatformed or boycotted (things outside of your control), your revenue numbers go down, too.

He said this is not about The Blaze. I would be surprised if it is a Rumble deal as I see he is on Rumble and they seem to give guys like Greenwald, Russell Brand, Viva Frei, and Salty Cracker free rein (Greenwald did say that Rumble asked him to move written media to Locals instead of Substack and that took some negotiation, though).

Who do you think he is talking about? The contract stuff is around 8:00-13:00. I'm not sure how much this is normal negotiation and how much of it is truly onerous.
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Posted by Pookers
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 2:55 pm to
Obviously Dailywire (which has always been NeoCon Inc.)
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Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 2:57 pm to
Ah. Is that Shapiro's thing? If so, why would you even think about going into business with them?
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 3:00 pm to
The fact that you guys rip on Shapiro just shows how out of touch you are
Posted by CountryVolFan
Knoxville, TN
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 3:01 pm to
I'm assuming DailyWire?

I hope he understands that the terms of his deal are negotiable. He doesn't have to take any of those.

I don't know why he's whining publically instead of just asking them to pull the terms or just telling them he's gonna self publish. If Jordan Peterson can work something out, surely they could negotiate.
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 3:02 pm to
At this point, he should just say he's talking about Dailywire. That's what everyone is assuming it is. If he isn't, he should clear that up.
Posted by Pookers
Member since Jun 2021
980 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 3:03 pm to
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The fact that you guys rip on Shapiro just shows how out of touch you are


Shaprio is a neocon. Hope this helps.
Posted by bnb9433
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 3:04 pm to
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Is that Shapiro's thing? If so, why would you even think about going into business with them?

im pretty sure he was offered before and told them no thanks

i don't think it's Rumble either as this video is on there
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 3:07 pm
Posted by Pookers
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 3:05 pm to
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Ah. Is that Shapiro's thing? If so, why would you even think about going into business with them?


I wouldn't. Dailywire is funded by a bunch of Lincoln project types as well as gullible boomers who like it when Shapiro goes on campus to make a bunch of brainwashed children look silly.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 3:06 pm to
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The fact that you guys rip on Shapiro just shows how out of touch you are




Shapiro is Sensi with deeper and wittier thoughts.
Posted by Pookers
Member since Jun 2021
980 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 3:07 pm to
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Shapiro is Sensi with deeper and wittier thoughts.


I wonder if Shaprio is repped by CAA like the rest of the government's assets?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 3:07 pm to
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The fact that you guys rip on Shapiro just shows how out of touch you are


Shapiro is one degree of separation from Dan Crenshaw
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
52800 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 3:07 pm to
I took one look at the website and other than Candace Owens, it looks like little Israel.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118550 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 3:11 pm to
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Dailywire is funded by a bunch of Lincoln project types


The Wilks Brothers. They are no where near as bad as Lincoln Project types.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118550 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 3:12 pm to
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it looks like little Israel
Posted by Pookers
Member since Jun 2021
980 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 3:15 pm to
Fair enough. The point is Dailywire is obviously a gatekeeping operation designed to keep people corralled into their nice little lanes of thought.
Posted by markinkaty
Katy Tx
Member since Dec 2019
4506 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 3:53 pm to
If Crowder comes back, he needs to cut his production down to less than an hour. Him and his crew hit a few home runs, but there was a lot of down time.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56189 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 4:00 pm to
He's talking about the Daily Wire. Here's Mark Dice's reply to Crowder's FB post today.
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Mark Dice
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Sounds like Crowder is talking about a contract offer from the Daily Wire and thought he'd join the Ben Shapiro family only to realize they're just another cartel. Ben Shapiro pays Facebook $130,000 a month in advertising (just for his Facebook page alone, not all Daily Wire advertising). This is publicly available information Facebook provides as part of their new transparency policy after Russians bought some ads in 2016. Also Shapiro had a secret dinner with Mark Zuckerberg at one of Zuck's homes a few years ago, so it's no mystery why he and the Daily Wire have never been demonetized or suspended. They're in bed together. People should know how the mainstream "conservative" machine works.
Fortunately, I never bought Shapiro's neocon shite. His 'conservatism' extends only as far as his orthodox religion and Israel first beliefs go.
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
2334 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 4:25 pm to
Shapiro pushed the vaccine.
Posted by Run Ultra
Member since May 2017
1904 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 4:31 pm to
I like Ben and listen to him daily, I also like Stephen and listen to him daily!

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Shapiro pushed the vaccine.


He’s said he wouldn’t take it if he knew then what he knows now. Was also against the mandates and The Daily Wire won its lawsuit to ban mandates across the country
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 4:33 pm
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