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texn
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re: COVID & Masks in 12 Graphs
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Bard
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re: COVID & Masks in 12 Graphs
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Look. Masks can help, and anyone with a lick of common sense and logic can deduce that.


Yes, by filtering out a whopping THREE PERCENT of particles! (study of healthcare workers in 1,600 hospitals)

Wearing a mask is like pissing on a raging forest fire then saying you "helped".

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Reality is that it likely extended the lulls on those curves, albeit they eventually spike up.


No, the reality is that masks created a security blanket effect. People felt less the need to social distance as long as they had their all-powerful mask on.

Social distancing is the better preventative, but even that is only a delaying tactic. With the R0 of this thing, everyone is going to end up getting it. Every. One. Thinking that it's going to simply give up, take its ball and go home because it has less patience than we do is a complete and utter denial of reality.

The only real preventative is to get it, go through it and then enjoy the immunity afterward. THIS is why we need a vaccine, anything else is just another delaying tactic.


Bard
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re: COVID & Masks in 12 Graphs
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How do you explain the success of countries like South Korea and Japan in dealing with COVID - where proper masking-wearing and hygiene was already embedded in the culture?


1. Japan and South Korea have both also seen upticks since their lows in early August and while they spiked then came back down they are both still well above their lows and have begun trending upwards again (Japan more so than SK).

Image: https://i.imgur.com/0v3s5sa.jpg


2. Social distancing.


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RollTide1987
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re: COVID & Masks in 12 Graphs
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How do you explain the success of countries like South Korea and Japan in dealing with COVID


Hegemony is a real pain in the ass, isn't it?



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notsince98
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re: COVID & Masks in 12 Graphs
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Look. Masks can help, and anyone with a lick of common sense and logic can deduce that.


Masks are not as effective as covering your mouth/nose when you sneeze or cough. They are a step backwards because when you sneeze or cough into a mask, the mask holds those liquids and then your breathing vaporizes them into the air.

If you cough or sneeze into the sleeve of your shirt, they stay there and don't get heated/blown into the air. Kleenex is also superior to a mask.

Masks also collect germ filled droplets from the air. As they collect on the mask, the viral load someone gets while breathing increases as they collect more and more.

Masks (disposable medical and cloth) cannot prevent viral transmission. You can't change the laws of physics.


gsvar2004
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re: COVID & Masks in 12 Graphs
bump bc well masks suck


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bfniii
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re: COVID & Masks in 12 Graphs
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How do you explain the success of countries like South Korea and Japan in dealing with COVID - where proper masking-wearing and hygiene was already embedded in the culture?
you partially answered your own question. this is not a bidirectional/reciprocating issue. any success would require looking at the cumulative efforts whereas failure definitively suggests that masks are not working.


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bfniii
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re: COVID & Masks in 12 Graphs
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Wearing a mask is like pissing on a raging forest fire then saying you "helped".
this point is being COMPLETELY lost on society. yes, masks help - to a vanishingly small point that is near zero.

i find it fascinating that fauci, et al, initially said not to wear them because people don't know what they're doing. i.e. they are not trained in infection control. now, masks are the only thing standing between you and certain death. fauci has said that their knowledge has evolved but, one thing is for certain; people have not suddenly become infection control experts wearing hazmat suits all day. iow, something about fauci's position doesn't add up.


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