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COVID - US cases vs South Korea - graphs

Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:16 pm
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:16 pm
Check out this link. Two graphs help put the current US trend in to perspective.

Also consider South Korea has about 13 hospital beds per 1000 residents. We have around 2.6 per 1000

Yahoo
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27858 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:19 pm to
So in the exact same amount of time, they have double the cases as the US does?

Im not sure that creates the right amount of hysteria you were looking for
Posted by tygeray
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
745 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:23 pm to
The line (curve) for South Korea doesn’t the same as the bars in the graph? That seem correct?
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16277 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:24 pm to
Read the comments.

I knew when Nancy Pelosi yelled "testing, testing, testing" at her press conference, this would be their battle cry. Scare the bejesus out of people with high positive numbers and decry the fact that every single American doesn't get a test kit in their mailbox.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9336 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:27 pm to
So basically our case count is severely understated, and mortality rate severely overstated, and both will come more into focus as testing is increased?
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22770 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:29 pm to
There are NO GOOD FIGURES on how widespread this virus is. Most people that get it will never be tested and therefore will never be counted in the "official stats".
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16711 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:30 pm to
quote:

So in the exact same amount of time, they have double the cases as the US does?

Im not sure that creates the right amount of hysteria you were looking for


The reason SK was able to blunt the spread was due to 60% of their cases originating from a super spreader. Their high volumes of testing allowed them to do high volumes of contact tracing and quarantine those who were exposed.

We aren’t doing that here to nearly that extent, and we don’t have the convenience of a single cluster to track down.

We can probably expect our trend to continue until the social distancing begins to influence the trend in a week or so.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 10:31 pm
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
2827 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:31 pm to
Or S Korea only has 57,000,000 people and is smaller than the state of Louisiana, also not a major business travel spot.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 10:32 pm
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16711 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:33 pm to
Line is reference on the right border. Bars referenced on the left border.

Not sure if that’s what you were asking.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27858 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:33 pm to
No, because with all the screaming about how much more testing S Korea did, here are their current numbers

295,647 tested
8,413 positive

That's a 2.8% infection rate
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:33 pm to
South Korea also had their outbreak happen among young people and not a nursing home.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27858 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:34 pm to
quote:

from a super spreader

Like the Life Care nursing home?
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:35 pm to
quote:

also not a major business travel spot.


Lol wut
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:35 pm to
Funny,they left some extremely vital information in regards to the SK outbreak.Wonder why?

quote:

By contrast, the outbreak in South Korea has occurred among much younger people. There, only 20% of cases have been diagnosed in those 60 years old and up. The largest affected group is those in their 20s, who account for almost 30% of all cases.

Then there is gender. The gender split in COVID-19 cases worldwide is about 50-50, but there are gender differences in survival. According to data from the original outbreak in China, the overall death rate is 4.7% in men versus 2.8% in women -- a whopping difference. Which is good news for South Korea, where 62% of cases occur among women.


Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28499 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:37 pm to
Are the graphs per capita? Because if not, they are complete shite
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16711 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:42 pm to
quote:

Funny,they left some extremely vital information in regards to the SK outbreak.Wonder why?


Do tell why age is important?
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36666 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:44 pm to
quote:

Also consider South Korea has about 13 hospital beds per 1000 residents. We have around 2.6 per 1000


Now do the amount of fully staffed ICU beds per 1000

You won’t like the results...
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16711 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

Now do the amount of fully staffed ICU beds per 1000

You won’t like the results.


We have 1M beds, and 64k ICUs. Not counting what’s already occupied.

The region in SK where their super cluster was located - medical services were overloaded.

quote:

In spite of the efforts, the Daegu-Gyeongbuk region ran out of space for the seriously ill. Four people isolated at home, waiting for hospital beds, were rushed to emergency rooms when their conditions deteriorated, only to die there, according to local media.


ScienceMag
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 10:53 pm
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 11:09 pm to
quote:

Do tell why age is important?
because of the obvious reason that this virus does not affect young people nearly as much as older
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 11:11 pm to
quote:

medical services were overloaded
did that happen in the us when h1n1 killed 12.5k people in addition to the seasonal flu? did that happen when the seasonal flu killed 60k 2 years ago?

no
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