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Corona vs Flu and Pneumonia vaccines
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:22 pm
Just curious as I know this is a different virus but whether anyone has looked at results of cases where people had Flu/Pneumonia vaccine vs those who did not ?
Wondering since I saw where many people who have Corona develop Pneumonia before or after onset. Just wonder if that would help at all in warding off this virus ?
Wondering since I saw where many people who have Corona develop Pneumonia before or after onset. Just wonder if that would help at all in warding off this virus ?
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:26 pm to ArkBengal
I would not include the flu shot with discussion of other vaccines. The science has been clear for a long time that the flu shot cannot and does not work.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:27 pm to ArkBengal
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Just wonder if that would help at all in warding off this virus ?
No, but it might help keep one from getting pneumonia as a complication.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:28 pm to notsince98
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I would not include the flu shot with discussion of other vaccines. The science has been clear for a long time that the flu shot cannot and does not work.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:30 pm to notsince98
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I would not include the flu shot with discussion of other vaccines. The science has been clear for a long time that the flu shot cannot and does not work.
I'm not sure if you are serious...
Someone can't actually be this stupid, they must be playing or trolling this stupid on the internet...
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:34 pm to notsince98
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The science has been clear for a long time that the flu shot cannot and does not work.
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Recent studies by CDC researchers and other researchers suggest that flu vaccination usually reduces the risk of influenza illness by 40% to 60% among the overall population when the vaccine viruses are like the ones spreading in the community.
I wouldn't say didn't work, but is marginally effective.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:36 pm to Aubie Spr96
40-60 percent is marginally effective? Haha
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:37 pm to Aubie Spr96
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I wouldn't say didn't work, but is marginally effective.
50% is pretty damn good protection from something that is basically free
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:42 pm to ArkBengal
The pneumonia vaccine stops nearly all forms of pneumonia from a bacteria-pneumococcal pneumonia.
If you vomit into your lungs, you get an aspiration pneumonia. No vaccine for that. Other critters (different bacteria, virus, fungi, other) can cause a lung infection (pneumonia) and have no vaccine. COVID 19- can cause a viral pneumonia- no vaccine for this at present.
If you vomit into your lungs, you get an aspiration pneumonia. No vaccine for that. Other critters (different bacteria, virus, fungi, other) can cause a lung infection (pneumonia) and have no vaccine. COVID 19- can cause a viral pneumonia- no vaccine for this at present.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:49 pm to thetempleowl
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I'm not sure if you are serious...
Someone can't actually be this stupid, they must be playing or trolling this stupid on the internet...
The science doesn't lie about the flu shot. You should take an hour or two and go read all the studies.
Start with studies evaluating the antibodies effective vs influenza and their presence in people who got the flu shot vs those who didn't.
The easiest way would be to research how influenza mutates. You simply can't vaccinate against something that mutates in such a way.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:50 pm to notsince98
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Someone can't actually be this stupid
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notsince98
Apparently... they can.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:50 pm to Aubie Spr96
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I wouldn't say didn't work, but is marginally effective.
The studies they used don't stand up to scientific evaluation and requirements. There are many articles on how the data has been skewed and manipulated.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:51 pm to notsince98
quote:Please link this overwhelming evidence that makes it so clear
The science has been clear for a long time that the flu shot cannot and does not work.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:51 pm to Cosmo
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50% is pretty damn good protection from something that is basically free
Your chances of not getting the flu are also 50% w/out the shot. Coincidence?
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:52 pm to tigerfoot
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Please link this overwhelming evidence that makes it so clear
Dude.... the science has been quite clear for a very long time. Don't you know?
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:53 pm to tigerfoot
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Please link this overwhelming evidence that makes it so clear
Your post makes it clear where your bias lies and your views of my stance. Anything i provide you will be immediately dismissed because I provided it.
If you really want research it yourself, google is almost completely uncensored right now and you can find months worth of reading on the subject very easily these days.
Good luck!
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:57 pm to notsince98
quote:So, nothing.
Your post makes it clear where your bias lies and your views of my stance. Anything i provide you will be immediately dismissed because I provided it.
If you really want research it yourself, google is almost completely uncensored right now and you can find months worth of reading on the subject very easily these days.
Good luck!
The anti vax crowd can produce similar science. Your 50/50 claim shows all we need to know about your lack of understanding.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 4:00 pm to notsince98
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I would not include the flu shot with discussion of other vaccines. The science has been clear for a long time that the flu shot cannot and does not work.
Provide said science.
We have debated elsewhere and I have seen no compelling evidence in any of your arguments.
This response:
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Anything i provide you will be immediately dismissed because I provided it.
Is false. Your evidence would be evaluated based on source, methods, statistics, and conclusion. That is how it is done.
Have a wonderful evening. Avoid the adrenochrome.
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:20 pm to notsince98
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Your post makes it clear where your bias lies and your views of my stance.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:21 pm to notsince98
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I would not include the flu shot with discussion of other vaccines. The science has been clear for a long time that the flu shot cannot and does not work.
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