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Consequentialism: Why We Can't Convince The Left They Are Wrong

Posted on 10/6/18 at 8:01 pm
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 10/6/18 at 8:01 pm
LINK

The reality is between the 25 and 32 minute mark roughly, but the whole thing is worth a listen.
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
7618 posts
Posted on 10/6/18 at 11:50 pm to
It really is fricking depressing that there's nothing we can do to get through to them.
Posted by Wtxtiger
Gonzales la
Member since Feb 2011
7257 posts
Posted on 10/6/18 at 11:55 pm to
5.56x45 will convince them well enough
Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
Member since Jan 2007
4970 posts
Posted on 10/7/18 at 12:03 am to
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It really is depressing that there's nothing we can do to get through to them.

It is almost impossible to convince those with a mental illness that they are wrong. They must first overcome their mental illness, then you have a chance.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29645 posts
Posted on 10/7/18 at 12:09 am to
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the 25 and 32 minute mark
Sorry, but no thanks
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29645 posts
Posted on 10/7/18 at 12:10 am to
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It is almost impossible to convince those with a mental illness that they are wrong. They must first overcome their mental illness, then you have a chance.


bingo
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 10/7/18 at 6:09 am to
Who wants to convince them. Among their recent accomplishments: (1) Electing a country saving President. (2) Changing the face of the supreme court to a law aiding, constitution driven body for a generation along with many of the nations courts. (3) Rebuilding our economy in a flash. (4) Getting a grip on the flood of illegal, game changing for the worse immigration. And more to come. They have drew a clear contrast and have forced even the timid to make a choice.
Posted by badlands
Member since Apr 2008
2313 posts
Posted on 10/7/18 at 6:14 am to
I don't think they see issues as right or wrong. That takes maturity and depth. They see 'my way' and 'not my way.' Brats generally.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24717 posts
Posted on 10/7/18 at 6:21 am to
dims have dark souls and do not like the light.

Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32642 posts
Posted on 10/7/18 at 7:20 am to
Leaving the left is hard because it means accepting that you’re actually responsible for your own life. You no longer have a boogeyman that you can righteously channel your hatred towards. Accepting that you are the source of all of your problems is a hard pill to swallow for all of us. Being a victim is a lot easier. The modern trend of assigning nobility to victimhood doesn’t help.
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Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67635 posts
Posted on 10/7/18 at 7:30 am to
You can't reason with a religion.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/7/18 at 7:34 am to
Good stuff OP. Thanks.
Posted by AlceeFortier
Member since Dec 2016
1795 posts
Posted on 10/7/18 at 8:35 am to
Because instead of trying to reason, which you cannot with emotional beliefs and fears, our petty president lies and taunts. If the whiny bitch would try to explain in a rational and presidential tone maybe it would not irritate so many moderate democrats and republicans. I do like that we are fighting the far far right but we have to fight the far far left who are going to bankrupt us and ruin our fragile environment all in the name of corporate wealth. There are too too too many dumb arse ignorant people who believe everything trump says... if he would tone down his bs we could perhaps come together. Unfortunately he is a dick.
Posted by badlands
Member since Apr 2008
2313 posts
Posted on 10/7/18 at 8:49 am to
What would you consider Obama?
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 10/7/18 at 8:52 am to
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Because instead of trying to reason, which you cannot with emotional beliefs and fears, our petty president lies and taunts.............


Sensible people have been trying to reason with the left for over 60 years, you moron. Being rational and nice has gotten us exactly nowhere. The left needs to be ridiculed, they've had more than enough time to grow up.
Posted by badlands
Member since Apr 2008
2313 posts
Posted on 10/7/18 at 8:59 am to
That is the point. Trump may very well be a dick. They got what they asked for. The right, for lack of a narrower discriptoon, has been provoked for decades. The left does not want to be reasoned with. They just want their way. Tantrums, lies, and chaos otherwise. As displayed a few posts prior.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 10/7/18 at 9:04 am to
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Wrong
Leaving the left is hard because it means accepting that you’re actually responsible for your own life. You no longer have a boogeyman that you can righteously channel your hatred towards. Accepting that you are the source of all of your problems is a hard pill to swallow for all of us. Being a victim is a lot easier. The modern trend of assigning nobility to victimhood doesn’t help.



You meant this about the right, right? Because there is no group in America more firmly cloaked in their victimhood than the party of Trump.

The reason you can’t convince the left they are wrong is because they aren’t. For the most part it’s a difference of opinion, not measurably right or wrong. I don’t think Trump is wrong I just think he should use some tact when making a point. But of course he’s willingness to not do so is his only real attraction.......
Posted by badlands
Member since Apr 2008
2313 posts
Posted on 10/7/18 at 9:06 am to
Not wrong? Where in history has communism worked? Where is open immigration worked?
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45071 posts
Posted on 10/7/18 at 9:08 am to
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Leaving the left is hard because it means accepting that you’re actually responsible for your own life. You no longer have a boogeyman that you can righteously channel your hatred towards. Accepting that you are the source of all of your problems is a hard pill to swallow for all of us. Being a victim is a lot easier. The modern trend of assigning nobility to victimhood doesn’t help.


I agree with most of this. I don't think that the individual is the source of all of the problems they might have in their life. Sometimes shite just happens. Be it the death of a father or mother, a life altering illness etc. The difference is they want to blame someone for these life altering events. When in reality it is just life happening.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13494 posts
Posted on 10/7/18 at 9:13 am to
Libtards are simpletons stuck in their “terrible twos”.

They be all, “I want, give me, it’s not fair, mine, and I’ll have a temper tantrum if told no.”

One must spank them in the voting booth, laugh at their antics, and ignore their childish self destructive desires.
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