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Confidence in 2024 Presidental election?
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:10 am
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:10 am
How are we supposed to have any confidence in the 2024 Presidential election after the steal we witnessed in 2020?
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:12 am to Tigereye78
No confidence. Republicans don’t have the backbone to stand up to the stolen elections. That was made clear a few years ago.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:12 am to Tigereye78
As long as there is mail in voting and ballot harvesting there will be widespread fraud in every election going forward. The entire system is compromised.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:12 am to Tigereye78
20% if it's Trump, and 75% if it's someone else.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:13 am to Tigereye78
We either feel it’s winnable or it’s not.
If we don’t feel it’s winnable, let’s all log out and and never talk elections again.
If it’s winnable, then why wasn’t 2020 winnable?
If it’s winnable, let’s give ourselves the best shot to win by running our strongest candidate (DeSantis, clearly).
If we don’t feel it’s winnable, let’s all log out and and never talk elections again.
If it’s winnable, then why wasn’t 2020 winnable?
If it’s winnable, let’s give ourselves the best shot to win by running our strongest candidate (DeSantis, clearly).
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:16 am to Tigereye78
There is a term in law called 'presumption.' It actually came long before law. It comes from logic:
'If you don't know whether acting will result in goodness or badness it is best not to act.'
Therefore, logic says we can have almost no confidence in an election and still vote. Because voting brings the possible benefit in an honest election. Not voting eliminates the possibility of benefit.
So, expect the worst, but act assuming possibility of success.
'If you don't know whether acting will result in goodness or badness it is best not to act.'
Therefore, logic says we can have almost no confidence in an election and still vote. Because voting brings the possible benefit in an honest election. Not voting eliminates the possibility of benefit.
So, expect the worst, but act assuming possibility of success.
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:17 am to Red Lasso
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Writing in Trump if they steal the nomination. Cope and Seethe.
What will it take for you to believe the nomination was stolen? A few posts by incels on 4chan, a Trump Truth, and a “kraken” message from Powell?
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 11:22 am
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:18 am to Tigereye78
Even if they were no cheating and they did away with mail in voting, etc. (which won't happen of course), the GOP's days are numbered.
The vast majority of Republican support comes from white people. Non-white groups vote heavily Democrat. As the US becomes majority non-white, Republicans will be unable to win the presidency.
The vast majority of Republican support comes from white people. Non-white groups vote heavily Democrat. As the US becomes majority non-white, Republicans will be unable to win the presidency.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:19 am to Tigereye78
If the Republicans do nothing more than hearings over the fact that the fbi and cia influenced the last election, none.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:20 am to Tigereye78
There were simply too many "first" and "coincidences" last election to believe they were legit.
That being said, what other choice do voters have other than to vote?
I understand some will say stay home, but what is that other than giving into those who wish to control us. Whether or not we believe the election was stolen our responsibility is to vote. If someone doesn't vote, that person has no right to criticize other than being a total hypocrite.
That being said, what other choice do voters have other than to vote?
I understand some will say stay home, but what is that other than giving into those who wish to control us. Whether or not we believe the election was stolen our responsibility is to vote. If someone doesn't vote, that person has no right to criticize other than being a total hypocrite.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:21 am to Tandemjay
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If the Republicans do nothing more than hearings over the fact that the fbi and cia influenced the last election, none.
Republicans don’t control Congress, largely due to Trump’s poor endorsement decisions.
We have to win the Presidency to clean up the federal agencies.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:21 am to Epaminondas
Don't write off the hispanic vote yet as time goes on. It hasn't broken as hard left as even the left projected. Who'd of thunk a bunch of central American Catholics would push back against wokeism?
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:23 am to Penrod
quote:If the cheating is not stopped, what you makes you think ANY republican could win? Why would democrats change their tactics, they've gotten away with cheating TWICE?
20% if it's Trump, and 75% if it's someone else.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:24 am to Tigereye78
Very little.
The media is going to be lit up with reports of allegations of ballot tampering, interference, dead people voting, false flags, voting site intimidation, missing mail-in ballots, and a myriad of other shite.
This is a scandalous and evil country now with little to no value on truth and the Constitution itself.
The media is going to be lit up with reports of allegations of ballot tampering, interference, dead people voting, false flags, voting site intimidation, missing mail-in ballots, and a myriad of other shite.
This is a scandalous and evil country now with little to no value on truth and the Constitution itself.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:26 am to Tigereye78
If, by this point, you still think there was enough cheating in the 2020 Presidential election to switch the outcome, you shouldn't vote in 2024.
There's no set of facts that can be given to you to make you believe the truth - that the election wasn't rigged - over the Big Lie.
So enjoy being gullible and don't waste your time participating in a process you willfully choose to be ignorant of.
There's no set of facts that can be given to you to make you believe the truth - that the election wasn't rigged - over the Big Lie.
So enjoy being gullible and don't waste your time participating in a process you willfully choose to be ignorant of.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:26 am to Tigereye78
Until we have paper ballots, election day and voter ID i have zero confidence. In the meanwhile (R) match (D) tactics without it being considered widespread fraud. I've been told that some fraud is perfectly acceptable.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:28 am to CoachDon
quote:Sad, but true.
This is a scandalous and evil country now with little to no value on truth and the Constitution itself.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:30 am to BamaAtl
quote:There, fixed it for ya.
If, by this point, you still DON'T think there was enough cheating in the 2020 Presidential election to switch the outcome, you shouldn't vote in 2024.
quote:you should take some of your own advice right there.
So enjoy being gullible and don't waste your time participating in a process you willfully choose to be ignorant of.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:32 am to Jon Ham
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If we don’t feel it’s winnable,
As things currently stand, it is only winnable for the Establishment.
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let’s all log out and and never talk elections again.
You first.
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let’s give ourselves the best shot to win by running our strongest candidate (DeSantis, clearly).
Gotta love when opinions are presented as incontestable fact. That's a tactic of the Establishment Uniparty and the MSM Propaganda Machine Complex.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:40 am to Jon Ham
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We have to win the Presidency to clean up the federal agencies.
Remember last year when the dems subpoenaed some of Trumps team? That could happen for starters. Dems do more than hearings. Keep your head in the sand and pretend you can fix this by voting in more establishment.
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