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Colorado lawmaker proposes 25 cent plastic bag tax

Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:06 pm
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12791 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:06 pm
to pay for housing

The bill, if passed, would refer a measure onto the ballot to ask Colorado voters to approve a tax on plastic bags from the supermarket. The tax would be a quarter, the same amount whether the customer at the checkout counter uses one bag or several. The proceeds would go to grants and loans to local governments and building contractors to build or retain affordable housing in Colorado.
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 3:08 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134808 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:09 pm to
So what happens when people stop using plastic bags?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
72789 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:09 pm to
Cali already does this its 10cents a bag
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55428 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:09 pm to
why don't they just build hobo camps out of the bags?
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
16699 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:09 pm to
Colorado loves some taxes, I’m bouncing up to Wyoming soon to escape the Californication of this state.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64051 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:11 pm to
The timber industry sure is sneaky these days
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12791 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

So what happens when people stop using plastic bags?


Liberals propose another tax?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134808 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:12 pm to
The funny part is that taxes like these all inevitably impact the poor at a higher rate than everyone else but we're always told that taxing the poor is literally Hitler
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20098 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:12 pm to
I use the heck out of plastic bags. It troubles me the extent that they clutter the world with their presence, but I like them. I reuse about 50% of them.

I don’t like connecting the bag tax to affordable housing. It should be used for waste conservation measures. Otherwise, I’m okay with it.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

The tax would be a quarter, the same amount whether the customer at the checkout counter uses one bag or several.


Side effect: "If I am PAYING the same amount...I want each item in its own bag" - MORE plastic bags are used


quote:

The proceeds would go to grants and loans to local governments and building contractors to build or retain affordable housing in Colorado.


quote:

“No matter where I go or who I talk to, the sky-high cost of housing is the number one concern that I hear,” Rosenthal said in a statement.



Yep...Gov subsidizing of a thing will surely DECREASE the price of the thing...right?





frick that, frick them
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
18934 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

The proceeds would go to grants and loans to local governments and building contractors to build or retain affordable housing in Colorado.


23 cents out of every quarter would be wasted and never make it to its intended use. They’ll be asking for another 25 cent raise in less than a decade.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21342 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:13 pm to
If it was used to pay for roadside litter removal, I would be okay with it. Good way to help get healthy deadbeats off of welfare.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55428 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:14 pm to
You know what helps with affordable housing that doesn't require thievery? Simplified zoning and permit laws. Now, I'm not familiar with the laws in CO in this regard, but I'm willing to bet that a lot of places have ordinances against very simple, cheap housing like a tiny house.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134808 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

Liberals propose another tax?


It's just funny that they create these taxes to force people to not consume these products then tie the revenue generation to something like housing or child healthcare.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39722 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

Yep...Gov subsidizing of a thing will surely DECREASE the price of the thing...right?


Yup. Not like section 8 housing gives apartment complexes the ability to keep jacking rates up up and away!
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69211 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:17 pm to
I took a urban economics class while an undergrand and the professor had us learn a model that treated homelessness as an economic decision. I.e. people live on street because the cost of housing is less to them than cost of being homeless

He said time and time again that the single biggest thing our govt can do to make homelessness less prevalent is to make SRO (single room occupancy) housing legal

It is currently illegal for home builders to make sro housing
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
7985 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

I don’t like connecting the bag tax to affordable housing. It should be used for waste conservation measures. Otherwise, I’m okay with it.


Ditto - I don't mind it (and we have a 7 cent bag tax on every bag here in Chicago), but use the funds for local conservation, not to build housing.

I have about five bags of various sorts (Nike, local grocery store, etc.) in the back of the car, and I just use those as needed. It's not a big deal, and it's the sort of environmentalism I can get behind.
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

I’m bouncing up to Wyoming soon


No state income tax. Beautiful landscapes and outdoor activities. Small town, rancher vibe. Short flights/drives to FtC, Denver, SLC, ID, MT depending on which part of the state you are in. Strong O&G and coal industries (for the next 5-10 years at least).

WY is on my short list as well.

Cheyenne vs Casper seem to be the 2 "big" cities, lots of smaller options like Jackson, Gillette, Rock Springs, Buffalo, Sheridan, Cody, Pinedale/Lander, etc.

Any recs on where to live?

(this may be better suited to a new thread)
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29013 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:30 pm to
All those dope smokers need a cheap, subsidized place to live now ... so, the working non-cheeches need to fork out.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55428 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:32 pm to
dude all we need to do is build houses out of hempcrete and then when they start getting withdrawals they can just smoke the house
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