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re: CNN: US government wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman

Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:23 pm to
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Except that whole Trump Tower being under surveillance was wrong. His own DOJ has admitted there's no evidence for that claim


When it comes out monaforts trump tower space was tapped? Will you admit the President was correct?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:24 pm to
You sure do like to work in the weeds with semantics. I bet you don't require such precision in criticisms of Trump.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:25 pm to
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When it comes out monaforts trump tower space was tapped? Will you admit the President was correct?


nope.

he's going to cling to the
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whole Trump Tower being under surveillance
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:26 pm to
No, because it appears that Manafort wasn't under the warrant at any time while he worked for Trump

ETA: there's also the whole "Obama ordered" part of Trump's claim that has no basis in fact
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 2:27 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:28 pm to
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When it comes out monaforts trump tower space was tapped? Will you admit the President was correct?
No. If the investigation into the FIFA corruption involved wiretaps, was Trump tapped then too since some of the top officials lived in Trump Tower? Or Qatar Airways (owned by the some country Trump accused of supporting terrorism) or Prince Mutaib bin Abdulaziz Al Saud of Saudi Arabia or one of the many other tenants.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:29 pm to



on the one-hand you want the wire-tapping of manafort so bad because more muh russians narrative

but at the same time, you don't want it to be wire-taps at his office in trump tower because then trump was right.



its tough to be in this position isn't it?
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 2:30 pm
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:30 pm to
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there's also the whole "Obama ordered" part of Trump's claim that has no basis in fact

Meh, his DOJ brah, are we back to the buck never got there?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:32 pm to
Ah. That is the crux of it isn't it. Obama got offended and the left lost their mind.

In this very thread you call the DOJ "Trump's DOJ". Why not the same treatment for Obama?


You don't have to answer that. We all know the answer.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:33 pm to
Saying Obama wiretapped Trump Tower implies that Obama was personally involved in the decision in some way. It's completely disingenuous. If the a judge issued a surveillance warrant against Manafort as a part of a legitimate criminal investigation it has nothing to do with Obama
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:35 pm to
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its tough to be in this position isn't it?


Not really. The only thing I want is a properly conducted investigation

If the Trump campaign did nothing wrong I want Mueller to publically state that so we can move on
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
47865 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:35 pm to
And there it is. Thank you.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:37 pm to
You're welcome. I'm glad you now understand how wrong Trump's claim was
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:39 pm to
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If the Trump campaign did nothing wrong I want Mueller to publically state that so we can move on

The melt will be close to the post election melt.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:39 pm to
Executive overview. Taken from the best and brightest posters.

1) No issue if the dossier was part of this
2) Trump's DOJ
3) Federal attorneys indict

Am I missing any other items that I was previously unaware of?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54201 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:41 pm to
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Saying Obama wiretapped Trump Tower implies that Obama was personally involved in the decision in some way.


Obama is naive enough to have not known what was going on but someone real close to him did - Valerie Jarrett. Guaranteed.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:41 pm to
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Valerie Jarrett. Guaranteed.
Working with Susan Rice and Loretta Lynch and company.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 2:43 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:41 pm to
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When it comes out monaforts trump tower space was tapped? Will you admit the President was correct?
Why?
Did Trump's soul somehow merge with Paul Manafort?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
47865 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:43 pm to
Trump is a wizard. Now he has Dems trying to create separation between he and monafort.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77854 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:46 pm to
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Now he has Dems trying to create separation between he and monafort.
delish of course
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:53 pm to
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Trump is a wizard. Now he has Dems trying to create separation between he and monafort.
He did that when he fired Manafort and threw him under the bus like Paul was some kind of temporary gofer during his campaign
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