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re: CNN: US government wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman

Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:54 pm to
Not apparently, it was.

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The surveillance was discontinued at some point last year for lack of evidence, according to one of the sources. The FBI then restarted the surveillance after obtaining a new FISA warrant that extended at least into early this year.


FISA warrants are a dime a dozen.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:57 pm to
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It also stopped for lack of evidence, oddly it magically restarted.
And apparently has helped lead to an indictment. Possibly more. We'll see what happens.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:57 pm to
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VOLhalla


Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:58 pm to
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Possibly more
Praying for it?

Manafort and Flynn will get dinged on some minor bullshite, that's all that will happen.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:02 pm to
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. Wonder what the FBI found in the down period in order to obtain a new warrant


They found that trump won the election
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:04 pm to
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Manafort and Flynn will get dinged on some minor bullshite, that's all that will happen.
What Juice has said all along.

Not so sure anymore
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:05 pm to
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They found that trump won the election
Well the nomination at least.

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As Manafort took the reins as Trump campaign chairman in May, the FBI surveillance technicians were no longer listening. The fact he was part of the campaign didn't play a role in the discontinued monitoring, sources told CNN. It was the lack of evidence relating to the Ukraine investigation that prompted the FBI to pull back.


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Manafort was ousted from the campaign in August.


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The FBI surveillance teams, under a new FISA warrant, began monitoring Manafort again, sources tell CNN.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:06 pm to
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Not so sure anymore
Still praying for the big boom?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:09 pm to
I'm going to go on the record and say, "I'm sexually attracted to Robert Mueller." Bob. And, it's getting more intense every day.

— Chelsea Handler (@chelseahandler) September 19, 2017
Posted by VOLhalla
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:13 pm to
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It is unclear when the new warrant started. The FBI interest deepened last fall because of intercepted communications between Manafort and suspected Russian operatives, and among the Russians themselves, that reignited their interest in Manafort, the sources told CNN.


The way it is written it sounds like the FBI didn't seek the new surveillance warrant until the fall of last year. So the old warrant expired before Manafort was a part of the campaign and the new warrant was probably issued after he had been fired.

Highly doubt this provided any evidence against anyone not named Manafort
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:15 pm to
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So the old warrant expired before Manafort was a part of the campaign and the new warrant was probably issued after he had been fired.
Maybe.
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Highly doubt this provided any evidence against anyone not named Manafort
Again maybe.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:15 pm to
So a win win for Trump. According to your statements, Trump could not be part of the issues which led to surveillance and he was right about trump tower being wiretapped.

How is this not a huge win for trump?
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:16 pm to
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this provided LOTS OF POLITICAL AMMO for Obama and the democrats to use against Trump campaign by the other people not named Manafort
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:17 pm to
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They found that trump won the election
Well then he should be in the clear since Manafort was months removed from working with Trump after his shady dealings were made public.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:18 pm to
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Well then he should be in the clear since Manafort was months removed from working with Trump after his shady dealings were made public.

Well if you believe Comey, he is in the clear.
Posted by VOLhalla
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:20 pm to
Except that whole Trump Tower being under surveillance was wrong. His own DOJ has admitted there's no evidence for that claim



Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:21 pm to
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surveillance and he was right about trump tower being wiretapped.
Trump said "his phones" at Trump Tower were tapped. Unless Trump provides and has access to communication services to all of the private tenants in his building, their communication lines aren't his, anymore than any renter's internet and phone is their landlord's.
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:22 pm to
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Well if you believe Comey, he is in the clear.
I have no reason to think otherwise.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:22 pm to
He's still cleaning up the mess he made over the Comey tapes.
Posted by VOLhalla
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:23 pm to
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Maybe


He was fired in August and the FBI's interest wasn't reignited until the Fall. Assuming this has been accurately reported I'd say it's pretty likely that Manafort wasn't under a surveillance warrant at any point while working on the campaign.
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