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CNN: New scientific data shows warming started much earlier, models useless

Posted on 11/25/21 at 10:48 am
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48838 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 10:48 am
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Francesco Muschitiello, an author on the study and assistant professor of geography at the University of Cambridge, said the findings were worrisome because the early warming suggests there might be a flaw in the models scientists use to predict how the climate will change.


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(CNN)The Arctic Ocean has been warming since the onset of the 20th century, decades earlier than instrument observations would suggest, according to new research.


Lol theyll pivot

LINK

Muh settled science
This post was edited on 11/25/21 at 10:50 am
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14036 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 10:50 am to
We are moving into a solar minimum...


They are going to have to pivot.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33146 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 10:52 am to
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there might be a flaw in the models scientists use to predict how the climate will change.


Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5182 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 10:53 am to
no way
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70851 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 10:53 am to
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the findings were worrisome because the early warming suggests there might be a flaw in the models scientists use to predict how the climate will change


Then adjust the models. No big deal unless you have an agenda.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 10:56 am to
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(CNN) The Arctic Ocean has been warming since the onset of the 20th century, decades earlier than instrument observations would suggest, according to new research.
So, more evidence that it is all being controlled by that little star up in the sky - you know, the one that you can't see at night

Solar minimum either this 11 year cycle or the next. Hopefully we won't find that there is a much longer cooling cycle than the 11 year (and worse than the 300 year cycle) that we are soon to discover.

And note: (CNN) apparently does not realize what this means for the political God of Climate Change/Global Warmists.
This post was edited on 11/25/21 at 11:07 am
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25409 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 10:57 am to
Maybe global warming started at the end of the ........... ice age?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21390 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 11:00 am to
It's still real to me dammit!
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
23979 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 11:02 am to
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there might be a flaw in the models scientists use to predict how the climate will change.


There are always flaws in every model, and is dependent on the quality of the data (garbage in is garbage out). Models must be adjusted to better reflect reality.

Sadly, as demonstrated with the CoviD models, I fear we’ve gotten to the point where if the model doesn’t reflect reality, we reject reality rather than the model.

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The Arctic Ocean has been warming since the onset of the 20th century


All that damned coal burning during the Industrial Revolution and whatnot.

Down with capitalism!
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45975 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 11:04 am to
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Maybe global warming started at the end of the ........... ice age?


Maybe it began a few hundred or perhaps a few thousand years before the end of the Ice Age which is why the ice sheets melted….lol
Posted by The Balinese Club
Coastal Bend Area of Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2797 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 11:06 am to
Hasn’t the Earth been warming since the Ice Age?

No shite?????
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2509 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 11:07 am to
Bring on the big ducks baws
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134840 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 11:09 am to
The amount of ego you have to have to claim that you understand, and can control a macrosystem the size of an entire planet is mind-boggling.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50277 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 11:10 am to
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might be a flaw in the models scientists use to predict how the climate will change.


I don't think we needed this study to tell us that.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 11:14 am to
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The amount of ego you have to have to claim that you understand, and can control a macrosystem the size of an entire planet is mind-boggling.

Excellent observation.

Maybe that is, in a nutshell, the malaise under which the progs/libs/lemmings suffer - MINDLESS EGO EXPLOSIONS
Posted by Texdelmag
Delaware
Member since Aug 2020
835 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 11:15 am to
I’m surprised they haven’t stated guns are causing some of it.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3735 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 11:19 am to
I always thought it started with the end of the Ice Age
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20105 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 11:20 am to
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Muschitiello said it's not clear how much of a role, if any, human-caused climate change played in the early Arctic warming, and more research is needed. "We're talking about the early 1900s, and by then we've already been supercharging the atmosphere with carbon dioxide," he said. "It is possible that the Arctic Ocean is more sensitive to greenhouse gases than previously thought. This will require more research, of course, because we don't have a solid grip on the actual mechanisms behind this early Atlantification."


Holy hell! What buffoons!

If the warming occurred prior to the rise in CO2, then it kinda debunks the entire premise of anthropogenic green house gas release as the cause for climate change.

So what do these ideologues think? They blame the warming on some UNKNOWN human induced cause, and double-down by claiming that the CO2 has “supercharged” the warming.

Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3201 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 11:25 am to
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supercharged”


I don't think they really understand what this word means...

Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 11:32 am to
The science behind climate change is anything but science. Total sham.

Why not just roll with the base benefits and value of global changes re: energy sources vs creating support from a false narrative?

These clowns are so accustomed to manipulation & deception, they can’t fathom truth & transparency when it actually serves as the appropriate approach.
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