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Claim is made that the mortality in the young from the vaccine is hundreds of times higher

Posted on 3/3/21 at 7:29 am
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
3563 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 7:29 am
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Vaccination in Israel: Challenging mortality figures?
Analysis by infectious disease specialist claims mismatch between data published by authorities and reality on the ground.

Aix-Marseille University Faculty of Medicine Emerging Infectious and Tropical Diseases Unit's Dr. Hervé Seligmann and engineer Haim Yativ and their research and data analysis:

They claim that Pfizer's shot causes "mortality hundreds of times greater in young people compared to mortality from coronavirus without the vaccine, and dozens of times more in the elderly, when the documented mortality from coronavirus is in the vicinity of the vaccine dose, thus adding greater mortality from heart attack, stroke, etc."

The authors also deplored "the fact of not being able to communicate on this vital information" to their fellow citizens.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/297051

All Johnson & Johnson products are manufactured in Chyna, the Pfizer vaccine included.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 7:37 am to
How

bout

You

don't

take

it?

Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7554 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 7:47 am to
quote:

How

bout

You

don't

take

it?


Wow. If evidence comes out that there are problems with a particular vaccine, we should just ignore it?
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 7:50 am
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
34940 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 7:58 am to
How many people have died in the US from the vaccine? I’m sure they would keep it quiet but I haven’t heard of any.
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2297 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:04 am to
quote:

All Johnson & Johnson products are manufactured in Chyna, the Pfizer vaccine included.



False.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:09 am to
Who said ignore it?

If ya think its dangerous, don't take it.

I think if almost ANY vaccine was studied hard enough you'd find similar articles,anecdotes and "claims"
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167074 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:11 am to
The OT jumped my shite a few days ago when I said I am not putting a rushed vaccine into my body for a virus that has less than a 1% chance of killing me.


Thread

Crazy how many sheep there are in this world
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8807 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:11 am to
You need to think about the implications playing out abroad.

Israel is close to mandating the vaccine, and the Green Pass they are employing is essentially treating the unvaccinated as second class citizens without access to society.

The momentum is worrying close to depriving anyone of the choice to simply not take.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167074 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:12 am to
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How many people have died in the US from the vaccine? I’m sure they would keep it quiet but I haven’t heard of any.


Data is too short-lived at the moment IMO.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73172 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:20 am to
West coast Ag and Paul Allen mad you wont take it
I'm sure Salmon was mad also

This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 8:20 am
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167074 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:24 am to
I suspect the vaccine Karens will be way worse than the mask Karens
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7571 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:35 am to
MMR, DTaP, Polio > proven effective for decades, and barring any virus that appears with the same range of contigen and effect, is all a human needs.
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
11904 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:45 am to
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I’m sure they would keep it quiet but I haven’t heard of any.


Im sure if someone gets the vaccine and dies 5 min later from a heart attack, then the heart attack is the cause of death, not the vaccine.

Unlike when someone can test positive for Covid and then die from a lightening strike, then Covid is the cause of death.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30332 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:54 am to
That Fauci story deserves it's own thread. frick that guy.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16148 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:59 am to
Not gonna argue about the mortality rate of the vaccine, because idk any of the actual numbers.

I will argue about how dumb it is giving kids the vaccine though. Outside of some extremely rare cases, kids are basically invulnerable to the lethality of covid19. The main concern was kids getting covid19 and then spreading it to others who are more vulnerable to the virus.

But, this vaccine, according to fauci, doesn't prevent people from spreading the virus. So even if ya get kids vaccinated, they can still spread it. All these parents are doing is putting chemicals in their kids' bodies for nothing.

If it comes out later that the vaccine has hurt kids, then it means that parents stood in line to have their kids hurt. Just because of societal pressure.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84049 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 9:01 am to
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I think if almost ANY vaccine was studied hard enough you'd find similar articles,anecdotes and "claims"


Anti vaxxers have been a thing forever The resistance to this vaccine has been fascinating to watch. Trump cut out all the red tape to get us this thing, but now so many don't trust it. Makes no sense.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19343 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 9:09 am to
Got my first Pfizer shot day before yesterday. Virtually no reaction.

quote:

More Than 265 Million Shots
Given: Covid-19 Tracker
In the U.S., 78.6 million doses have been administered; rollout goes global


From Bloomberg (sans link)
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 9:11 am
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
3563 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 9:16 am to
As of Feb 3: About 730 deaths and 8 cases of spontaneous abortion recorded by EUDRA following Pfizer vaccination.

https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/about-730-deaths-and-8-cases-of-spontaneous-abortion-recorded-by-eudra-following-pfizer-vaccination/

3 Dozen Cases of Spontaneous Miscarriages, Stillbirths Occurring After COVID-19 Vaccination

https://archive.vn/preL7

https://www.theepochtimes.com/3-dozen-cases-of-spontaneous-miscarriages-stillbirths-occurring-after-covid-19-vaccination_3716385.html
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 9:21 am
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160104 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 9:21 am to
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But, this vaccine, according to fauci, doesn't prevent people from spreading the virus. So even if ya get kids vaccinated, they can still spread it. All these parents are doing is putting chemicals in their kids' bodies for nothing.



At first they weren’t sure if people who got the vaccine could still spread it, that’s different than saying they will still spread it. Reports coming out are promising that it does reduce transmission. Fauci can be a bit of an emotional lesbian but he’s usually just being overly cautious and pessimistic. Chances are that it will stop or slow transmission which is great.


I’m also of the mindset that these vaccines are the best accomplishments of Trump’s presidency. Operation Warp Speed allowed scientists to forego all of the bureaucratic bullshite to achieve amazing, life changing vaccines. mRNA technology can be the most significant medical breakthrough of our time. So I find it weird when conservatives wish that it would have taken longer to clear all of the red tape.
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