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re: City of Glendale, CA releases statement that they’re no longer cooperating with ICE

Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:19 am to
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:19 am to
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They're allowed to have a stance on how they want the feds to operate, and they can use the aforementioned collaborations as a legal way to respond to what they perceive as bad acts by fedgov. That is fully legal and within the spirit of what it means to be America.



So in essence you're saying that if the city of Glendale wants to harbor, say 10,000 Chinese nationals looking to take over Los Angeles, that's their prerogative and the fed gov is SOL?
Posted by TDTOM
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:19 am to
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:22 am to
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If California seceded, it would have a larger GDP than all but these countries US China Germany Japan India It would have a larger economy than these notable countries UK France Italy Canada and almost twice the GDP of Russia
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And 50+ billion in debt, and no one to fall back on in Indiana or Louisiana or Maine
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37681 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:25 am to
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4cubbies


Do you still believe Trayvon martin was shot and killed by police or are you ready to recant your belief and admit you were wrong?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465159 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:25 am to
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So in essence you're saying that if the city of Glendale wants to harbor, say 10,000 Chinese nationals

No. That's not what I'm saying.

That would be illegal.

Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41864 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:25 am to
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tell us more about the logistical issues for our military as it relates to the L. A. insurrection.


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Bad framing. My comment wasn't about the "L.A. insurrection" exclusively.


So, expand the scope. It should make it easier for you to make your list of “logistical issues.”

Or, are you just full of shite?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:28 am to
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So, expand the scope. It should make it easier for you to make your list of “logistical issues.”


Imagining fedgov deploying military units across the United States to combat riots containing primarily citizens should make the logistical issues pretty apparent. You'd also be asking guard units comprised of locals to act upon their friends and neighbors in many of these confrontations. Again, these issues should be apparent.

That's ignoring the legal issues, namely the Posse Comitatus Act.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88528 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:32 am to
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No. That's not what I'm saying. That would be illegal.
How should the federal government go about removing the 10,000 Chinese people legally?

Assume they’re getting the exact same level of pushback that we’re seeing in LA.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8434 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:32 am to
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That would be illegal.



And harboring people that have broken the law isn't?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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465159 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:33 am to
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And harboring people that have broken the law isn't?

What does this have to do with the city terminating a contract with fedgov to house detained illegals?
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:33 am to
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And ports.


We cannot replace California ports.

It is physically, logistically, financially, and literally, impossible.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:33 am to
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How should the federal government go about removing the 10,000 Chinese people legally?

Assume they’re getting the exact same level of pushback that we’re seeing in LA.


Again, what does this have to do with a city terminating a contract with fedgov?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:34 am to
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We cannot replace California ports.

It is physically, logistically, financially, and literally, impossible.


Correct.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88528 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:35 am to
Nothing.

I’m simply curious how you think the federal government should handle the situation I asked you about.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35707 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:35 am to
Nothing. States and municipalities are not obliged to enter into contracts with the Fedgov or anyone else if they don't want to.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41864 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:37 am to
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That's ignoring the legal issues, namely the Posse Comitatus Act.


I didn’t mention the legal aspect. Nice deflection though.

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Imagining fedgov deploying military units across the United States to combat riots containing primarily citizens should make the logistical issues pretty apparent.


No specifics related to logistics…got it.

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You'd also be asking guard units comprised of locals to act upon their friends and neighbors in many of these confrontations.


Police are tasked with this DAILY.

Additionally, the NG has been deployed in previous instances.

Do you even Katrina bro?


Thanks for proving that you are full of shite. Now let’s see how your spectrum dwelling arse responds.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:37 am to
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Nothing.

I’m simply curious how you think the federal government should handle the situation I asked you about.


But I"m not discussing that ITT. Again, I'll repost the post prior to where the irrelevant hypo was proposed to me

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They're allowed to have a stance on how they want the feds to operate, and they can use the aforementioned collaborations as a legal way to respond to what they perceive as bad acts by fedgov. That is fully legal and within the spirit of what it means to be America.


How does your question in any way relate to THAT?

You're changing the hypo into one that's bordering on, to the point of clear violation, breaking laws.
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 10:39 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465159 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:41 am to
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I didn’t mention the legal aspect. Nice deflection though.

I did, in my original comment.

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Police are tasked with this DAILY.

There are a lot more police in this country than national guard.

Hopefully this starts to paint part of the picture. It was laid out pretty clearly for you originally.

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Additionally, the NG has been deployed in previous instances.

In very isolated, specific instances dealing with a very small population in a very small geographic area.

Not on a national scale attempting to deal with millions of citizens and illegals across the literal US.

Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8434 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:43 am to
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That would be illegal.


Why is that illegal? Do you not think we have Mexican nationals running rampant in Los Angeles right now?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465159 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:43 am to
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Why is that illegal? Do you not think we have Mexican nationals running rampant in Los Angeles right now?


This has literally nothing to do with what I posted (and you replied)
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