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re: Circa reporting Flynn duped into not having attorney present

Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:56 pm to
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:56 pm to
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Cool
Agreed. It is pretty cool.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:02 pm to
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1. Flynn knows to never talk without an attorney there. Hell, Flynn could have ended the conversation and had the FBI agents escorted out of the WH immediately.
2. Flynn knows to have passed on that advice to his son.
3. Law enforcement are trained that their job is to roll people up. It creates confirmation bias and taints everything they do. Hammers and nails and all that.
Dude has been begging to sing for the feds since he got fired. All of this pseudo-outrage is pretty hilarious, tbh.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
18965 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:04 pm to
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Flynn has enough sense to tell them I will NOT be questioned without an attorney present..Indeed I will not talk to you if he is.



You would think not talking to investigators without legal counsel present would be common knowledge, but people get fricked by the system daily for doing just that. Most people wrongly assume that if investigators show up and start asking questions, you have to answer them. They also wrongly assume they cant just walk away, but if you aren't under arrest you can do just that. Not knowing and understanding your rights can screw you big time.
Posted by umop_apisdn
Member since Sep 2017
3673 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:05 pm to
Sounds an aweful lot like obstruction on justice.
Posted by Stuttgart Tiger
Branson, MO
Member since Jan 2006
14528 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:09 pm to
Wonder if he was placed under oath? I thought I’d heard that he was, but I haven’t seen it mentioned in any stories.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 8:11 pm
Posted by TheMidasTouch
Member since Oct 2017
440 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:13 pm to
Translation is Flynn was outsmarted into telling the truth.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 8:14 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35361 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:17 pm to
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This is true. And we're not treating him like a child. He plead to a felony if you don't recall.
I was talking about the point of this thread saying he was "duped".

For all I know Trump fired him because he allowed himself to get questioned by the FBI.

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This said, try to throw your politics aside, does the power and behavior of the FBI disturb you, or are you o.k. With it? 
I haven't seen anything regarding Flynn that would disturb me. Remember, he had a lot of concerning "underlying behavior" leading up to that interview according to testimony.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:19 pm to
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We need to stop treating Mike Flynn and the rest of the Trump administration like they are children. He's a grown man who should know how to handle himself.
You seem to miss the point. There are men, especially teams of corrupt men and women, who are smart enough to manipulate people into lying. That is why no person should be allowed to talk to law enforcement without an attorney, and Flynn need a team of attorneys, not just one.

It shouldn't be a right; it should be an absolute requirement to have a lawyer present. If a person wants to ignore the advice, then so be it.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35361 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:32 pm to
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You seem to miss the point. There are men, especially teams of corrupt men and women, who are smart enough to manipulate people into lying.
I guarantee you that there isn't an investigator smart enough to get me to answer questions as part of an investigation if I don't want to. Flynn is either incredibly stupid or he knew he had a lot to hide and was trying to play it cool. Or both.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139776 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:35 pm to
So smart you know all about the Constitution.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 8:36 pm
Posted by choke
Member since Dec 2015
790 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:39 pm to
Let’s take a look at this little nugget about McCabe and Flynn, based on this new info.
LINK

McCabe had a personal vendetta against Flynn folks.....
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:44 pm to
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They also wrongly assume they cant just walk away, but if you aren't under arrest you can do just that. Not knowing and understanding your rights can screw you big time.
Do you think General Mike Flynn is one of these people?
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
18965 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:06 pm to
You should watch the video. Its a great explanation for why you remain silet and don’t make statements. LINK
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:09 pm to
I'm good. Send it to @prisonmike
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:17 pm to
Levin is reporting that someone close to Flynn said that Flynn pled because he is broken emotionally and financially, and is tired of his family's being dragged through the mud.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:26 pm to
No wonder he was so easily turned by the Ruskies!
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:27 pm to
Couldn't blame him. Just think, if he would have gotten a lawyer, he's probably still the NSA.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73414 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:28 pm to
Special Agent Strokz is that you?
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:11 pm to
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Levin is reporting that someone close to Flynn said that Flynn pled because he is broken emotionally and financially, and is tired of his family's being dragged through the mud.


WEAK!

Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:23 pm to
Comey was scared. I'll allow Flynn to be weak. Flynn beats Comey in a cage fight.
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