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re: Christian adoption agencies in MI will lose state funding if they turn away same-sex
Posted on 3/23/19 at 6:14 pm to jacob4bama
Posted on 3/23/19 at 6:14 pm to jacob4bama
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My tax money goes to planned parenthood!!! Should I be required to fund organizations that are dedicated to the murder of children?
They are just making sure the kids don’t live with homos
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Posted on 3/23/19 at 6:41 pm to SOSFAN
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Children need a safe happy environment doesn't matter if the parents are straight or gay. At least the gay couples are stepping up.
Stop making sense.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 6:45 pm to VOR
Christians need to stop putting up with it. However, Christian adoption agencies should not receive government funding in the first place.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 6:51 pm to BBONDS25
quote:What an a-hole. Like your grasp of science is so strong. Is that from your mixing cleaning fluids on the job.
I realize your grasp on science and biology is not strong. I mean, you thought women could have third trimester ectopic pregnancies.
quote:More horseshite trying to explain the unexplainable. A daily occurrence for you.
His comment was about the importance of children. Think really hard why a third trimester baby might fit into that category.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 6:55 pm to FooManChoo
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The amendment was created to protect religious belief from interference from the government, not as a stick to swing at religion to keep it out of the public square.
Created as both thanks for playing
Posted on 3/23/19 at 7:42 pm to FooManChoo
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The amendment was created to protect religious belief from interference from the government, not as a stick to swing at religion to keep it out of the public square.
Sure. And the government isn’t forcing anything. It’s incentivizing something else.
This post was edited on 3/23/19 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 3/23/19 at 7:48 pm to bmy
Jefferson called it a wall between Church and State
Posted on 3/23/19 at 7:52 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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t’s not like the State is saying they can’t exist or operate, just that they can’t receive state funds. If any state agency refused to provide service to same sex couples they would be fired and charged as well as having state funds withheld from them.
I don’t see why Christian adoption agencies should be able to operate outside of the established rules of everyone else.
All of this.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 7:54 pm to FooManChoo
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I don’t see why Christian adoption agencies should be able to operate outside of the established rules of everyone else.
1st amendment
I am not sure which first amendment rights are being disenfranchised here.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 8:21 pm to texridder
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What an a-hole. Like your grasp of science is so strong. Is that from your mixing cleaning fluids on the job.
I wasn’t the idiot that thought there could be a third trimester ectopic pregnancy. That little piece of brilliance is all you!!
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More horseshite trying to explain the unexplainable. A daily occurrence for you.
It’s no surprise you don’t grasp the connection. You don’t grasp lots of things. That’s a you problem.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 8:27 pm to jacob4bama
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So you are for defunding an organization that is getting a significant number of children out of foster care and into good homes, because they do not hold your same beliefs?
No, no, no.
He's in favor of placing children with couples who have a higher rate of domestic violence than hetero couples.
It's all about the kids.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 8:32 pm to Crimson Wraith
The Catholic Church has deep pockets. Why aren't they financially supporting their Christian endeavors such as this instead of expecting the taxpayers of Michigan to prop then up? And just to be clear before all the insults and slurs begin at me for this post.. I completely support a private adoption agency's right to discriminate on whatever grounds they choose in placing children in care in homes.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 9:54 pm to Toddy
Toddy! We have all been enjoying reading some bumoed threads you started the last couple of years. Thanks for the laughs!! 
Posted on 3/23/19 at 10:06 pm to jacob4bama
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My tax money goes to planned parenthood!!! Should I be required to fund organizations that are dedicated to the murder of children?
Well I’m against abortion so I agree with you although it’s not exactly the same since I don’t think PP bans people from using their services.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 10:07 pm to Nguyener
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This is the worst argument I've ever heard and it is especially stupid coming from someone who supports the Progressive platform
Lol. I’m hardly progressive dumbass.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 10:27 pm to BBONDS25
Hey man, no problem! Glad you're enjoying them! I've become detached the past few months from my former (and unhealthy at times) obsession with politics and the nonproductive (and sometimes juvenile) arguing on this board. Loving life right now, hope you are as well !
Posted on 3/23/19 at 11:08 pm to BBONDS25
quote:Again trying to weasel out. What is the connection weasel?
It’s no surprise you don’t grasp the connection. You don’t grasp lots of things. That’s a you problem.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 11:31 pm to Robin Masters
quote:Not every family winds up great for kids. Everyone sins and sometimes sin destroys lives and tears apart families. However it's the responsibility of the adoption agencies to try to get kids moved in to the best possible places they can at the time; they can't predict the future.
I was raised by a single mom and I’m a very amazing person. Lol.
I certainly agree that quality man & woman is best, not debating that. Unfortunately not everyone gets those cards dealt to them and it doesn’t mean a gay couple cant provide incredible love and support.
Doctor in my hood adopted, with his wife, twin boy and girl. When they we were 9 he was busted fricking one of his drug reps. They divorced and now dad lives in an apartment alone and kids see him every other weekend.
There is a reason why adoption agencies do background checks and make prospective parents go through a long process to adopt. Agencies could make adoption of children just like adopting a dog or cat from a rescue shelter so that you can take one home same day, but that wouldn't necessarily be in the best interest of the kids. So, there is criteria each agency checks for, and religious agencies have different standards for what they believe constitutes a good home for the children in their care.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 11:43 pm to LSUconvert
quote:It is. These agencies are Christian and Christianity teaches that the proper way for children to be raised is by heterosexual couples. There are practical reasons to this on top of purely religious ones, including gender role modeling. Christian adoption agencies generally support the notion that homosexuals do not provide a proper environment to raise children due to the belief that parents should model both the male and female gender roles for children.
It is categorically not about that.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 11:45 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:That's true, but Michigan in this case actually passed a law protecting religious freedom for adoption agencies. Religious agencies make up about 25 percent of the agencies that place children in that state and without such protections, those agencies couldn't do what they do which means a 25% decrease in child placement, or rather, a 25% increase in backlogs for the other agencies.
All types of people are excluded from qualifying for government funds too
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