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Chip Roy calls for Cheney, Dr. Fauci and Milley to immediately testify before Congress

Posted on 1/20/25 at 2:34 pm
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 2:34 pm
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 2:36 pm to
Just start with the people who worked for them. The pigs will squeal then.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 2:37 pm to
I’d rather he demand testimony for the elder Cheney more than his daughter.
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 2:37 pm to
If the pardon is unconstitutional, were they pardoned? This precedent must not be allowed.
Posted by loogaroo
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 2:39 pm to
I hope Chip doesn’t frick this up.

He had to take the spotlight. fricking douche.
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
12324 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 2:42 pm to
This is actually the right move for now. They can’t plead the 5th since they’re “pardoned”, so they have to testify or be in contempt.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 2:48 pm to
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They can’t plead the 5th since they’re “pardoned”,
what recourse is there when they plead the fizzif?
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
13415 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 2:55 pm to
The people pardoned may skate but they didn’t do anything in a clean room. People that helped are full of information
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 2:58 pm to
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They can’t plead the 5th since they’re “pardoned”


Did you just make that up or is there some legal precedent to that claim?
Posted by KCSilverTiger
KCMO
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 2:59 pm to
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They can’t plead the 5th since they’re “pardoned”, so they have to testify or be in contempt.


They don't even have to plead the fifth. All they have to say is "I can't remember" or "I can't recall."
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
3736 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 3:01 pm to
Biden was unfit. Prove that & these pardons are meaningless.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
25122 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 3:07 pm to
Well pleasing the 5th is about self incrimination. Can't really incriminate yourself if you have been pardoned
Posted by alphaandomega
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 3:09 pm to
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If the pardon is unconstitutional, were they pardoned? This precedent must not be allowed.


If we assume it was legal, and they are questioned I assume they cannot take the 5th (since they cant be charged) but if they lie under oath then that crime was committed after the pardon and they could be charged.

I am not a lawyer so I dont know if that is right. Any board legal people want to weigh in?
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
3993 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 3:11 pm to
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Did you just make that up or is there some legal precedent to that claim?


Yes, it’s literally the purpose of the Fifth Amendment. Once a person has total criminal immunity, there’s no risk of self-incrimination.
Posted by 850SaintsGator
Pensacola
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 3:11 pm to
Chip is dumb…they got pardoned bc Trump mused before he got elected that Cheney should be arrested

Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
69104 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 3:15 pm to
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Well pleasing the 5th is about self incrimination. Can't really incriminate yourself if you have been pardoned


If they don't want to perjure themselves after the fact by testifying under oath, which in that testimony they could be asked about things either before or after the pardon period, they would still be able to plead the 5th. The only time you can't plead the 5th is if you already started testifying for an hour, then the questions get difficult or you start fricking up your story, you can't just plead the 5th to escape. Or that's what I learned in law class 25+ years ago. It doesn't work like it does on Chappel show or other hollywood courtrooms.
Posted by Epaminondas
The Boot
Member since Jul 2020
5295 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 3:17 pm to
How are the pardons unconstitutional?
Posted by dblwall
Member since Jul 2017
301 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 3:17 pm to
Reminds me of the scene from Clear and Present Danger


Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
31791 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 3:22 pm to
OK, they call your bluff and say, Cheney says, you are damned right I did what I did. I believe what I believe and I acted on it. What ya gonna do? I had protections as a member of Congress and I'm further insulated by Joe Biden's pardon that you'll have to go to court to challenge.

Have fun, Chip
Posted by HEtiger
Member since May 2008
698 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 3:31 pm to
Defy the subpoena and be thrown in jail.
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