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CDC caught lying again
Posted on 5/22/21 at 5:05 am
Posted on 5/22/21 at 5:05 am
Now there are different test rules based on whether you are vaccinated or not. Show me your papers!!
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Posted on 5/22/21 at 5:51 am to Longdriver98
Color me surprised....
Posted on 5/22/21 at 5:52 am to Longdriver98
We've all suspected this for awhile now. They went from scientific comparisons to fruit salad to SoS....... really disingenuous. 
Posted on 5/22/21 at 6:02 am to Longdriver98
quote:We were talking about this last week ( LINK).
CDC caught lying again
Get shot in the head with a CV19+PCR test, and it's a Covid death according to the CDC.
Meanwhile, CV19 infections subsequent to vaccination aren't counted as breakthrough unless the individual is admitted to the hospital
Posted on 5/22/21 at 6:03 am to Longdriver98
Did they run this by the teachers unions too?
Posted on 5/22/21 at 7:20 am to Longdriver98
The author makes a big deal about how COVID cases are listed even if the people don't have any symptoms. Well, yeah, this is nothing new. Not sure why he thinks it is new or any evidence of some nefariousness. The fact is some people have the COVID bug but not the symptoms. They should consider themselves lucky.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 7:25 am to Longdriver98
This is a giant charade.
The virus is real, but we have been lied to about it countless times.
The virus is real, but we have been lied to about it countless times.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 7:28 am to loogaroo
I wouldn't use the term "lied". The people at the CDC are trying their best and making adjustments as things develop.
If they MAKE adjustments based on new evidence, people say "Oh, okay, so we have been LIED to all along?"
If they DON'T make adjustments based on new evidence people say "What, dummies, you are so set in your ways you refuse to change when new evidence is unearthed? What the hell is wrong with you"?
CDC can't win either way.
If they MAKE adjustments based on new evidence, people say "Oh, okay, so we have been LIED to all along?"
If they DON'T make adjustments based on new evidence people say "What, dummies, you are so set in your ways you refuse to change when new evidence is unearthed? What the hell is wrong with you"?
CDC can't win either way.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 7:31 am to Eurocat
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CDC can't win either way.
Well that is what happens when you publish opinions and not facts.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 7:47 am to Eurocat
So why keep the old rules for people that aren’t “vaccinated”?
Posted on 5/22/21 at 7:51 am to Eurocat
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I wouldn't use the term "lied". The people at the CDC are trying their best and making adjustments as things develop.
If they MAKE adjustments based on new evidence, people say "Oh, okay, so we have been LIED to all along?"
If they DON'T make adjustments based on new evidence people say "What, dummies, you are so set in your ways you refuse to change when new evidence is unearthed? What the hell is wrong with you"?
CDC can't win either way.
You might have a point if the cdc was updating their policy for everyone. The problem is that they’re only changing the policy for people that have been “vaccinated” in order to make it appear that the “vaccine” works
Posted on 5/22/21 at 7:54 am to Eurocat
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I wouldn't use the term "lied".
When your message goes from “impending doom” to no more masks in just a few weeks, you are either lying or incompetent.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 7:54 am to Eurocat
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The people at the CDC are trying their best and making adjustments as things develop
I love when government mandates including fines and forcible action (closure of business and livelihood) are based upon people trying their best.
Oh, the science.
This post was edited on 5/22/21 at 7:55 am
Posted on 5/22/21 at 8:06 am to Eurocat
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I wouldn't use the term "lied". The people at the CDC are trying their best and making adjustments as things develop.
If they MAKE adjustments based on new evidence, people say "Oh, okay, so we have been LIED to all along?"
If they DON'T make adjustments based on new evidence people say "What, dummies, you are so set in your ways you refuse to change when new evidence is unearthed? What the hell is wrong with you"?
CDC can't win either way
I read an article last year in April that talked about number of cycles on these tests and how it was going to artificially inflate the number of cases. Right after the inauguration the threshold was changed to reduce cases. It is a clear manipulation of data.
Now they are putting a thumb on the scale to either show the vaccines are effective or show that the unvaccinated have higher rates of infection to presumably encourage (or eventually force) people to get the jab. They can’t cook the books and then get sympathy for being in a now win situation.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 8:16 am to Jeff Boomhauer
No, because if they kept the old rules, people who would have a working vaccine (one that stops a ton of sickness, but in those few that do get sick the majority of the time it is very smell) would be labeled as breakthrough cases.
The vaccine can't eliminate you getting it, it can reduce your chances and if you do get it - make it mild except for .0001% of the time (approximate number of course). That is its purpose.
The vaccine can't eliminate you getting it, it can reduce your chances and if you do get it - make it mild except for .0001% of the time (approximate number of course). That is its purpose.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 8:18 am to meansonny
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I love when government mandates including fines and forcible action (closure of business and livelihood) are based upon people trying their best.
CDC stepped into territory they don't belong, they deserve some ridicule.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 8:18 am to Longdriver98
Posted on 5/22/21 at 8:19 am to Jeff Boomhauer
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You might have a point if the cdc was updating their policy for everyone.
OR if their rules changes didn't seem to track political benefits.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 8:19 am to Crimson K
"Now they are putting a thumb on the scale to either show the vaccines are effective..."
They are effective. Virtually everyone in a hospital today is someone who was/is unvaccinated.
CUT AND PASTE BRIEFLY -
“The way for us to start to get back to normal life is to have as many people as possible be immune from the virus,” he said. “The vaccine is the best way to do this.”
Among the 4,300 COVID-19 patients admitted to Cleveland Clinic hospitals between Jan. 1 and April 13, 99.75% were not fully vaccinated.
The study also looked at 47,000 Cleveland Clinic employees who had received one shot, two shots, or no shots. Among those, 1,991 tested positive for the coronavirus in recent months. About 99.7% of those who contracted COVID-19 weren’t vaccinated.
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They are effective. Virtually everyone in a hospital today is someone who was/is unvaccinated.
CUT AND PASTE BRIEFLY -
“The way for us to start to get back to normal life is to have as many people as possible be immune from the virus,” he said. “The vaccine is the best way to do this.”
Among the 4,300 COVID-19 patients admitted to Cleveland Clinic hospitals between Jan. 1 and April 13, 99.75% were not fully vaccinated.
The study also looked at 47,000 Cleveland Clinic employees who had received one shot, two shots, or no shots. Among those, 1,991 tested positive for the coronavirus in recent months. About 99.7% of those who contracted COVID-19 weren’t vaccinated.
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This post was edited on 5/22/21 at 8:24 am
Posted on 5/22/21 at 8:32 am to Eurocat
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The author makes a big deal about how COVID cases are listed even if the people don't have any symptoms. Well, yeah, this is nothing new. Not sure why he thinks it is new or any evidence of some nefariousness. The fact is some people have the COVID bug but not the symptoms. They should consider themselves lucky.
Wut? This is a dumbass post.
They have changed how they measure a positive case. First they did it in January and now they are separating vaccinated vs unvaccinated. If you are too stupid to see they are manipulating the data, you are, well, just plain stupid.
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