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re: CBS Morning News: “Trump Is Characterizing This As A ‘Raid’ But Experts Disagree”

Posted on 8/10/22 at 11:32 am to
Posted by Liberator
Ephesians 6:10-16
Member since Jul 2020
8346 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 11:32 am to
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95% of our posters are blind partisans, with you (YA Title) prominent among them.


Interesting posit.

UNLIKE the scene at every single Democrat/Wokester forum, *actual* diversity of thought & opinion (and debate) is not only allowed, but encouraged from "our posters" here at TD.

With respect to your claim of hyper-partisanship, actual "robust" political criticisms of both the GOP and Donald Trump from "our" supporters is often seen here.

Btw, in support of YAT and to be fair, he has indeed challenged consensus on occasion; At LEAST as often as when *you* carefully tip-toe within a couple of feet from the typical Dem-reservation position.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11471 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 11:39 am to
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I said that I won't quibble with those who use the term "raid."


Then why are you in this thread? You come into every thread arguing nuances for no other reason that to disrupt a conversation. It is almost as if you are someone pretending you are one thing but really another. Just so you can obfuscate.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 11:40 am to
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It is almost as if you are someone pretending you are one thing but really another. Just so you can obfuscate.


That's the literal definition of the word "troll"...
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
2978 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 11:46 am to
Hank is moderately concerned over this development
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 11:49 am to
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Then why are you in this thread?
The thread is ABOUT a semantic distinction ("Trump Is Characterizing This As A ‘Raid’ But Experts Disagree”), so I offered an opinion on that semantic distinction.

God, you people are sensitive little things.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
71994 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 11:52 am to
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The thread is ABOUT a semantic distinction ("Trump Is Characterizing This As A ‘Raid’ But Experts Disagree”), so I offered an opinion on that semantic distinction.
No, this thread is about a partisan shift in phraseology due to optics.

You are the only one trying to describe it as a “semantics situation”.

Not only that, but you are validating the partisan position.

This post was edited on 8/10/22 at 11:55 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
70908 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 11:54 am to
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UNLIKE the scene at every single Democrat/Wokester forum, *actual* diversity of thought & opinion (and debate) is not only allowed, but encouraged from "our posters" here at TD.
quote:

encouraged


Let's not get carried away now.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 11:56 am to
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How long until ‘a group of 1,000 raid experts have written a letter detailing how this was not a raid’?

don't think that the 'fact checkers" can handle it?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21665 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 11:59 am to
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I said that I won't quibble with those who use the term "raid."


quote:

Then why are you in this thread?


To quibble with those who use the term “raid.”
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
70908 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 12:00 pm to
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How would you define 30 fbi agents in gear, weapons hot showing up and telling inhabitants to "get the frick out and turn off the cameras " oh wise one?


Certainly wasn't what I was picturing when I first saw it reported. I pictured doorkickers going in, putting people on their faces, and shooting the dogs. I figured there had to be some bad shite going down for that to happen.

Turns out, that's not what happened. But it's almost like that's what they wanted everyone to think and when that wasn't the reaction they got, they started in on "it wasn't a raid."
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 12:03 pm to
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Typical leftist practice.

Focus not on behavior or facts, but on the language that characterizes them. If you change the language, you "change" the facts.

That is just pure stalinist.

Anyone ever casting another vote for these domestic terrorists are absolutely NO AMERICANS.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
71994 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 12:04 pm to
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when that wasn't the reaction they got, they started in on "it wasn't a raid."
Ding ding ding

It isn’t a semantics game.

They shifted their word usage the minute they noted that the reaction wasn’t what they wanted.

You know it was about optics. I know it.

Hell, Hank knows it. He is just so full of himself that he has to cling to this completely moronic notion of “semantics”.
This post was edited on 8/10/22 at 12:05 pm
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 12:17 pm to
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God, you people are sensitive little things.

God, you are such a two-faced lying POS

and just all around a little man schmuck
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 12:18 pm to
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How would you define 30 fbi agents in gear, weapons hot showing up and telling inhabitants to "get the frick out and turn off the cameras " oh wise one?
Depending upon how they behaved, I might describe it as a raid or as routine execution of a search warrant. LEOs at all levels are very fond of wearing their fancy tactical gear.

I don't do criminal work, but I admit that I am surprised that the LEOs forced everyone to leave the premises while conducting their search. I would not think that would be allowed, but perhaps BarryB can give us more info on that point, since he was formerly an assistant US attorney.

Were the FBI agents armed? I am sure that they were. In any case, the photos that I have seen show Trump's SS detachment displaying their weapons as well.



This post was edited on 8/10/22 at 12:26 pm
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53768 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 12:19 pm to
Is this like when a person identifies a certain way but you know even without a biologist degree you know they are either a man or a woman?

In this case the media are the expert biologists...

They know a raid when they see one ....oh wait
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
70908 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 1:42 pm to
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