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Posted on 1/20/25 at 2:48 pm to Aubie Spr96
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An escalation of the failed War on Drugs. Terrible decision.
Oh, dear.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 2:48 pm to Mason Dixon Swine
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I see this going about like Vietnam
I think your vision is impaired! LoL
It will be nothing like Vietnam.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 2:48 pm to RT1941
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Those drugs don't just tote themselves across the border and throw themselves into distribution in the US
I understand which is why his point about domestic policing in the context of this discussion seemed weird.
That's why I said I don't think that's what we're talking about in this thread and what we are talking about is engaging in a foreign conflict in Mexico
Posted on 1/20/25 at 2:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That's why I said I don't think that's what we're talking about in this thread and what we are talking about is engaging in a foreign conflict in Mexico
What it does is stop treating the cartels as merely a law enforcement problem and treats them as what they are: a trans-national, national security threat similar to Al-Qaeda and ISIS and gives the President the tools to deal with them as such. Whether the President decides to engage with them in Mexico or another country is up in the air but he has the tools to go after them in a similar manner to terrorist threats.
These tools should be available.
This post was edited on 1/20/25 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 1/20/25 at 2:53 pm to 14&Counting
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What it does is stop treating the cartels as merely a law enforcement problem and treats them as what they are: a trans-national, national security threat similar to Al-Qaeda and ISIS and gives the President the tools to deal with them as such.
Do you think El Chapo is being prosecuted in the US because we treat them normally?
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but he has the tools to go after them in a similar manner to terrorist threats.
And it will be as successful as the last war on terror
Posted on 1/20/25 at 2:55 pm to Bwmdx
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Does this mean we can go after the CIA for arming them?
Sweet Summer Child.
Do you think this would be the first terrorist organization the CIA armed?
Posted on 1/20/25 at 2:57 pm to Aubie Spr96
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The War on Poverty got us more poverty.
The War on Terror got us more terror.
The War on Drugs got us more drugs.
I'm not sure what there is to understand
What a lazy answer. Can you explain why each failed??
"It didn't work the end" just sounds pointless & negative
This post was edited on 1/20/25 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 1/20/25 at 2:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Do you think El Chapo is being prosecuted in the US because we treat them normally?
We were dependent on the Mexican government arresting him and turning him over. Going forward, the President can act unilaterally to deal with the likes of El Chapo .....inside of Mexico unilaterally if he chooses.
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And it will be as successful as the last war on terror
Probably but the tools should be available to deal what is grown beyond a typical law enforcement problem.
This post was edited on 1/20/25 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 1/20/25 at 2:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Do you think El Chapo is being prosecuted in the US because we treat them normally?
I guess this changes how we will be treating these types of characters as well - you don’t go to federal prison anymore, it’s off to Guantanamo and the interrogation can begin. Also, I think it allows the military to be deployed at the border for operations, but not exactly sure how that plays out.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 4:19 pm to 14&Counting
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We were dependent on the Mexican government arresting him and turning him over.
If we usurp that role, then it's no longer domestic and we're engaged in a foreign military conflict.
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Going forward, the President can act unilaterally to deal with the likes of El Chapo .....inside of Mexico unilaterally if he chooses.
Effectively declaring war on Mexico.
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Probably but the tools should be available to deal what is grown beyond a typical law enforcement problem.
We've used spec ops for decades for the international war on drugs.
Always fails, sometimes makes it worse (see: Los Zetas)
Posted on 1/20/25 at 4:35 pm to Bard
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See: Landman - Season 1, Episode 8.
See Lioness, Season 2..
Posted on 1/20/25 at 5:08 pm to Aubie Spr96
The war on terrorists hasn't gained us more terror please tell me inside the united states where more acts of terror have happened after 911
I don't think you're understanding with marking cartels.As terrorists will do to their organization. no one can do business with them. Banks, countries, etc
It's the end of the end for cartels sitting protected in Mexico...its over
Think about it...any place or any one or any entity, doing business with anyone associated with a cartel is now gonna be in jeopardy of complete shutdown
I don't think you're understanding with marking cartels.As terrorists will do to their organization. no one can do business with them. Banks, countries, etc
It's the end of the end for cartels sitting protected in Mexico...its over
Think about it...any place or any one or any entity, doing business with anyone associated with a cartel is now gonna be in jeopardy of complete shutdown
Posted on 1/20/25 at 5:12 pm to GoblinGuide
quote:it's quite literally a domestic invasion
guess we're back onto foreign conflicts now
Posted on 1/20/25 at 5:55 pm to SportTiger1
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it's quite literally a domestic invasion
Nobody is against prosecuting them domestically
Putting troops into Mexico is a foreign conflict
Posted on 1/20/25 at 5:57 pm to ChatGPT of LA
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.As terrorists will do to their organization. no one can do business with them. Banks, countries, etc
You think you could do this yesterday in the US with cartels?
That's why civil asset forfeiture is so massive (and terrible). Specifically the War on Drugs.
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Think about it...any place or any one or any entity, doing business with anyone associated with a cartel is now gonna be in jeopardy of complete shutdown
Was already the law
Posted on 1/20/25 at 6:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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And it will be as successful as the last war on terror
What a whiny bitch
Posted on 1/20/25 at 6:00 pm to RohanGonzales
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What a whiny bitch
You liked the WOT and want to do it again?
Bold take
Posted on 1/20/25 at 6:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If we usurp that role, then it's no longer domestic
It's not "usurping' a role....it's changing the scope of how we deal with it. A national security threat vs a law enforcement threat. Again similar as to how we would deal with al-Qaeda
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nd we're engaged in a foreign military conflict.
Yes quite possibly
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Effectively declaring war on Mexico.
No
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We've used spec ops for decades for the international war on drugs.
Correct
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Always fails, sometimes makes it worse (see: Los Zetas)
It was successful in Colombia so not always but your point is taken.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 6:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Putting troops into Mexico is a foreign conflict
Is this what the betas are afraid of?
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