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Carrier to preserve 'more than a 1000 jobs' instead of 'close to a 1000'

Posted on 12/1/16 at 6:20 am
Posted by Contra
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Posted on 12/1/16 at 6:20 am
According to an official release from Carrier: LINK

Good for those people
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
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Posted on 12/1/16 at 6:22 am to
The interesting thing about this carrier situation is how mad liberals are that these people get to keep their jobs.
Cahoots was legit melting about it on here yesterday.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/1/16 at 6:22 am to
#winning
Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
7521 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 6:29 am to
No doubt they didn't want this to happen. They'd rather play politics than see these people keep their jobs.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 12/1/16 at 6:49 am to
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mad liberals


Is there really any other kind? A bunch of three year-olds that need to go to their rooms and not come out for a good while.
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/1/16 at 6:53 am to
That's 1000 more votes for trump in 2020
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
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20942 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 6:59 am to
The current POTUS' jimmies are ruffled about this developmental. Lol
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 12/1/16 at 7:14 am to
I read that these folks will still probably be laid off in the 2-3 years. Regardless, if they can be temporarily saved that's good news for them. I hate to see anyone lose their job.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 7:22 am to
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That's 1000 more votes for trump in 2020


That's not just a 1000 more votes. Think about the companies that supply to carrier - how many jobs is that. Think about the uniform service, the vending service, the Fastenal supplier, etc.

1000 jobs saved at equals for more than a 1000 votes, 1000 jobs saved has a "trickle down" effect on the community it serves.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 7:43 am to
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The interesting thing about this carrier situation is how mad liberals are that these people get to keep their jobs.
Cahoots was legit melting about it on here yesterday.




A huge reason why we lost the election....arrogance.


What is truly amazing to me though is how interested the GOP and the right is in the middle class all of a sudden. If this new found interest in solidifying the middle class is genuine and the Right and the GOP has lost interest in being the party of billionaires and introduces policies which will make the middle class stronger I will never vote for a democrat again as long as I live.

I sincerely doubt the sincerity, however. Not necessarily of Trump, but I sincerely doubt that the GOP has suddenly realized that policies that keep sending jobs overseas is a bad idea for the middle class.

I don't care where the support comes from...left, right, center...it makes me no difference....if you are going to support the middle class with policy you had me at hello. If Donald Trump needs his anus licked for saving any of these jobs....the numbers vary between 400 and 1200 from what I have seen....it needs to be done....I don't care how many gay marriages are nullified, how many men in dresses have to piss in the men's room or how many uninsured people there are in the United States....at the basis of all of that is the need for the middle class to be strong....when folks ain't scared of being foreclosed on and going bankrupt they will once again be open minded enough to care about one another.....but GOP policy for the last 40 years has pitted us against one another and removed any compassion for one another from our society....and the democrats were in a foot race to keep up and, as evidence by the down playing of the importance of a single job being saved to the individual whose job it is, are still in that mind set. I don't know what if any influence Trump had BUT he made the fricking effort which is more than can be said about any President from either party as far as I know forever....at least since Reagan was elected.

This country became great because the middle class was strong....the GOP set out to destroy that strength and the democrats couldn't have cared less as they promoted an agenda of individuals having the right to do what felt good to them while both sides lined their pockets with money and power. If Trump reverses that and strengthens the middle class I will openly admit I have been wrong for years and will gladly be a Trumpkin....

I am not overly optimistic that the GOP has changed its stripes as far as working people go. What I am VERY optimistic about is the fact that working people are still interested enough to be involved....and the GOP is now going to have to answer to the working class like neither party has ever had to listen to them....because the GOP has the reigns now completely....from the lowest levels of local government to Washington the GOP has the tiller...any sort of pothole is now the GOP's to own...if they prove capable of strengthening the middle class, regardless of the damage done to progressive social policies (if woman wanted an abortion they should have turned out and voted...sorry but if you die in a botched abortion that is on you young lady), they will have a convert in me for life....because I know where progressivism started...I know what conditions were like before Social Security and how much resistance there was at the time to such an idea...we will get back to the point where we can once again be concerned about where a man in a skirt pisses....but we will be there in numbers as secure working people and a strong, viable middle class....
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 12/1/16 at 7:45 am to
I'm not reading all of that, but if you don't think the GOP has been interested in the middle class you have not been paying attention.

Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 7:53 am to
I don't agree with all of the finer points of what you said, but I do agree the direction that the Republican Party is going with regards to American jobs is the right direction. For every one person in America you can find who gives a damn about abortion or gender studies, there are 100 people who care deeply about their own employment and the employment of their friends and family. It's the economy stupid.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:09 am to
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I'm not reading all of that, but if you don't think the GOP has been interested in the middle class you have not been paying attention.



I have been a member of the middle class since 1965 and in that time the GOP has gained strength at every level of government and the middle class has shrunk and lost strength. The GOP has never given a tinkers damn for the middle class until this election....

That is not to suggest that the democrats have been any better....but they have had to pay attention to labor for a long time....something they stopped doing when Reagan fired the air traffic controllers...


What we have seen in the election of Trump is a new era in the rise of American working people....this is exactly how labor unions started in the United States in the first place. Accept this time around labor and working people are in a much better place than they were the first time around....the first time it was illegal to even mention a labor union let alone be a member of one. We are witnessing a populist working class movement...something that hasn't happened since the 30's because working people were in pretty good shape....they are not ever going back to the days that neo-con policy had us heading toward...the GOP has set itself up to be the new party of labor, organized or otherwise...we'll see how that works out....
Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
7521 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:14 am to
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germandawg


I can't say for the GOP (I still don't trust them; maybe they can prove me wrong), but I sincerely believe Trump wants to help the middle class. He's something we've never really seen before and it's very refreshing.

The Dems this election showed they don't give a shite about the middle class. They're more worried about if you're a woman, black, hispanic etc. instead of real issues. The party as it stands right now is long gone and with the re-election of Pelosi, it just shows they haven't learned their lesson and don't plan to learn it anytime soon.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:54 am to
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germandawg


Neither party has given a crap about the middle class for years. Trump hit a cord with the middle class and that is why he is president-elect
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17259 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:27 am to
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I have been a member of the middle class since 1965 and in that time the GOP has gained strength at every level of government and the middle class has shrunk and lost strength.
While simultaneously, the domestic policy of the United States has moved steadily leftward, and the size, scope and reach of government has increased dramatically.

And can you honestly claim "the GOP has gained strength at every level of government" when the GOP itself is significantly further to the left of the Democratic party of 50 years ago?

If you consider yourself liberal/progressive, your side won years ago. Stop pretending your ideology is somehow not the driving factor in current policy.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10151 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:45 am to
That's a good point. There's definitely a multiplier effect

On average, 1 direct job supports the addition of 4.6 indirect jobs. It ranges per industry but this helps paint the picture

Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 4:09 pm to
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The Dems this election showed they don't give a shite about the middle class. They're more worried about if you're a woman, black, hispanic etc. instead of real issues. The party as it stands right now is long gone and with the re-election of Pelosi, it just shows they haven't learned their lesson and don't plan to learn it anytime soon.



I agree...with the caveat that the Democrats have done things in the past which were very beneficial to the middle class....they just haven't done much lately...but they also haven't dismantled those things and have stood in the way of the pre Trump GOP dismantling those things...
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 4:22 pm to
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And can you honestly claim "the GOP has gained strength at every level of government" when the GOP itself is significantly further to the left of the Democratic party of 50 years ago?


I may be wrong about that but I think it is a correct statement to say that the GOP will control more levels of government on January 21 2017 than they have ever controlled...and probably more than any one party has controlled ever in the history of the United States.

The GOP is not to left of the 1966 Democratic party (50 years ago) but I will allow that it is to the left of the Democratic party of nearly 70 years ago when the south was locked into the Democratic party and Truman hadn't yet integrated the military....

You are correct however that the progressive movement won years ago but the reasons are far from anything man can control....the only thing that is certain in life is change and change and progress are more or less the same thing...so of course society is more progressive today than it was a year ago. That is not to say that there is not a large contingency of people who would have us as a society regress...which isn't going to happen.

Conservatism does not require a commitment to never progressing....it is about doing so at a controlled pace....that was a big part of the problem with the civil rights movement....the south was changing anyway....it just wasn't doing it fast enough and when it was forced to change faster than the people of the south were ready to accept it created all manner of ill side effects. The same thing happened in the south before the civil war....slavery was economically unsustainable...but the south was unwilling to change as fast as the anti-slavery movement was demanding and created a situation that was untenable to either side...


As far as the size, scope and reach of the federal government increasing dramatically has it? When compared to the wealth of the nation, the size of the nation and the role the nation plays in world politics has the Federal Government really increased? I know the cost has and regulations beget regulations but has it kept pace with the growth of the nation overall???
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40062 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 4:25 pm to
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The interesting thing about this carrier situation is how mad liberals are that these people get to keep their jobs.


That is not interesting at all. Liberals hate self-sufficient hard-working ppl, because self-sufficient hard-working ppl don't need gubment checks.

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Cahoots was legit melting about it on here yesterday.



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