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Can you imagine if Lee Atwater was still alive? He would have Trump unbeatable..

Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:50 pm
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:50 pm
Not taking away anything from Potus Trump..

But, Atwater was special.. once in a generation type political talent. He would supplement the already widespread support for Trump.

Being a blues player, and boy from S.C. He would be dominating the black voters that are turning to Trump.

Would be scary to see him work with tDonald.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:51 pm to
Liberals think lee Atwater was a racist

He wasn't
Posted by TrumpThatB
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:53 pm to
Liberals think everyone is a racist. It how they get out of an argument because there to stupid to win without pulling the race card
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:55 pm to
Thanks for the thread.
I liked Atwater a lot.
Posted by matthew25
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:55 pm to
The best underhanded political operative ever.

Nicknamed "The Golden Boy."

His current rival is Roger Stone.
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:02 pm to
There’s an incredible documentary on Amazon Prime abt Atwater... highly recommend for all.

His illness was a tragedy.

But boy did he make the most of his 37 years on earth.
He was a GOPer that fought just like the Dems but better.
If he never died, you would’ve never had POTUS Bill Clinton. Fact.
Posted by MastrShake
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:11 pm to
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Liberals think lee Atwater was a racist. He wasn't.
no?

Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:20 pm to
So he can’t acknowledge previous tactics of the past?

Nowhere did he endorse those things. Simply acknowledged them.
Posted by coonasswhodat
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:25 pm to
Didn’t he have some type of deathbed apology for being such an a-hole? Maybe his late life conversion would have led him to expose Trump for what he is.
Posted by MastrShake
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:30 pm to
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Nowhere did he endorse those things. Simply acknowledged them.
he absolutely was 100 percent endorsing those tactics, and he used them. this is the the same guy behind the Dukakis Willie Horton ads, racist fear-mongering was his lifeline. listen to him say it for yourself.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:30 pm to
I knew Lee very well ... he was in the family restaurant all the time when I was growing-up.

You're right ... he knew how to message. He would have laid waste to the liberal fricktardedness and their false narratives. He knew how to cut to the chase.

He'd also have Lindsey Graham taken out. He's probably rolling in his grave at Linsey's bullshite these days comsidering he basically set Lindsey up with Strom and, in doing so, made him Strom's heir apparent.

Lindsey has betrayed us all on many levels. He'll be primaried and beaten in his next election. We've finally had enough of that cuck frick.
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:33 pm to
The willie horton ad was pointing out undeniable facts.

Facts aren’t racist.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:39 pm to
I have to laugh about what a part of the Progressive Orthodoxy The Lee Atwater / Republican strategy as racial bogeyman is . They repeat the Narrative enough it becomes like God’s word.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:42 pm to
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. this is the the same guy behind the Dukakis Willie Horton ads
Which were 100% accurate.
Posted by MastrShake
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:52 pm to
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The willie horton ad was pointing out undeniable facts. Facts aren’t racist.
dont do this. dont act as if you dont know what he was doing. he said he was gonna "make willie horton his running mate". was that the only awful crime in the state under dukakis, or the worst? why did he take that one and run with it the way he did? why did he highlight this one to the lengths that he did? you think that was coincidence? are we really gonna play this game?
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:54 pm to
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I have to laugh about what a part of the Progressive Orthodoxy The Lee Atwater / Republican strategy as racial bogeyman is . They repeat the Narrative enough it becomes like God’s word.


You’re correct.

It’s funny also because the name of the documentary abt him, from 2008, is “The Boogie Man: The Lee Atwater Story.”
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:57 pm to
quote:

was that the only awful crime in the state under dukakis, or the worst? why did he take that one and run with it the way he did? why did he highlight this one to the lengths that he did?


Let me educate you.

Willie Horton murdered and raped a woman and her boyfriend WHILE ON A WEEKEND PRISON PASS that Dukakis implemented as Massachusetts governor. Yes, it was the worst crime committed due to that dumb and dangerous policy.

Crime in the 88 election was a huge issue, as crime rates were very bad and getting worse in most cities in America. Bush ran a very tough on crime campaign and it worked very well, he did amazing in suburbs where people feared crime the most.
Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:05 pm to
That was Atwater's genius - using messaging that could trigger racial fears while being able to still plausibly deny that was he was doing. Revisit his quote above.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:17 pm to
It’s Progressive Orthodoxy Bro , a sacred cow . No facts can ever compete with a Progressive Fundamentalist’s religion. They Need in the deepest psychological sense, to believe that every victory by their opponents is based in somebdisreputable, nefarious motivation. We see President GHWB , they see a racist passion play .
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:26 pm to
That’s all the left has these days.

It didn’t happen overnight, but here they are: they cannot win a war of ideas against the right anymore.

Their policies/ideas are all about open borders/socialized medicine/ redistribution of wealth.

Americans don’t want that.

So their only option is to play the race/feminist card.

Identity politics to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
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