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Can someone give me evidence that trump sought to weaken nato last week?

Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:15 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69228 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:15 am
Because it doesn’t logically follow that wanting member nations to contribute more to their military (which was trump’s main theme) means he wants to undermine it.

If he had come and and said they he wanted to leave NATO, that’s another story

But saying that wanting member nations to contribute more is akin to undermining it is like saying a president is undermining education when he wants states to devote more of their budgets to it.

Most liberal posters on here repeated that claim many times. I’m genuinely curious what the thought process is here
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39727 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:17 am to
No. Asking for them to pay more, should bolster not hurt NATO defense. Only a brain dead clown with TDS could even attempt to make a differing point of view.
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:18 am to
The main goal of Trump's actions was to strengthen the USA. That is all.

America FIRST.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42492 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:19 am to
He weakened the NATO countries political desires to become part of ONE WORLD with no borders.

Instead of weakening NATO Trump prodded NATO to meet their Number one DEFENSE obligations to make NATO stronger.
Posted by NewGrad1212
Russia
Member since May 2012
433 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:19 am to
Right now our government is only about talking points. Don't expect evidence of anything no matter what political party you associate with.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78311 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:20 am to
For years Dems screamed about NATO defense spending waste. The first time an American President addresses it they melt into a hysterical puddle on Mom’s basement floor.

The quality of the opposition’s argument is dismal. This is a Rout.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69228 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:28 am to
I hope I get some legit responses to see where other side is coming from
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69228 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:32 am to
This is legitimately bugging me. A lot of liberals are posting in other threads right now but are not stopping by to give me an answer.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20346 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:37 am to
Come to Jesus meetings tend to strengthen the chastised if they are willing to man up and accept their mistakes. The truth hurts, but these people needed to hear it.
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 11:37 am
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:46 am to
really?

Your loyalty to the great orange one has made you blind.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69228 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:48 am to
Can you please cite me evidence from NATO talks last week that trump sought to weaken it?

Your post is devoid of any answer to my question.
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:52 am to
quote:

Can you please cite me evidence from NATO talks last week that trump sought to weaken it?

Your post is devoid of any answer to my question.


When you attack your allies publicly it weakens said organization.

Further, the pentagon went to our allies after Trump's tantrum and assured them...all was well...

plenty of evidence out there...but hey...keep your head in your orange blinders.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69228 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:55 am to
quote:

When you attack your allies publicly it weakens said organization.
Sticks and stones may break my bones.....

Fact is, I don't think it "hurts" nato when we ask member nations to contribute more.

Can you please explain the process of how constructive criticism weakens the organization?
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63411 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:56 am to
How about not grandstanding at the expense of our allied
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35862 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:59 am to
quote:

about not grandstanding at the expense of our allied


But it was OK for Obama and his SOS to grand stand at our expense?

I see!!!
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