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re: Can somebody explain the burning bags to me?

Posted on 8/4/25 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
20002 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 2:04 pm to
I believe that scenario FL Tech. There were some good guys who said, lets save these.

Explains how quickly they were "found" by Patel. "Hey boss let me show you something".

Its not as if these were the few files that were destroyed and they are "tracked" with threat of death. Remember our vaunted NSA security clearance where 10s of 1000s of queries with no supervison?

The US govt destroys about 98.6% each year. Want to know how much they produce 5.6 million cubic feet. There are 500 pages of paper in a ream. 10 reams make up one cubic foot.

They were throwing 1000s of cubic feet of documents to be destroyed, I doubt they kept track of it because they assumed everyone was on board, cause they could all go to jail.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 2:08 pm to
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Can somebody explain the burning bags to me?


Opening scene explains it well:

Posted by AUJACK
Member since Sep 2020
1395 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 2:14 pm to
I assume that the bags were filled between the period after the election and the the time of the inauguration. There was probably a purge of documents during that time and shredding boxes of documents is a pain so the easy solution is of put them in burn bags for destruction. I also assume the majority of the documents were sensitive hand written notes or printouts of emails, just a guess. I don't know the classification of the FBI building but my time in a SCIF I never printed a single document from my SIPRNET computer, didn't even know where the classified printer was located. There are protocols for handling classified information and even though you are located in an open storage facility you cannot leave classified information uncontrolled. Bad things can happen if you screw up.

The FSO is responsible for control and destruction of the "burn" bags and they do tend to pile up and stay around for months at a time. It was common to see hundreds piled up in high bays in some facilities. I don't know process in DC, but the organizations I supported contracted to a company that would come to the facility in a large shredder truck. I don't know how the contractor charged but I am sure the government does not want to pay to destroy just a handful of bags, and that is the primary reason that the bags pile up, plus it is a pain in the rear for the FSO.

Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8442 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 3:25 pm to
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Maybe they thought that the bags would not be found.


This may sound silly but - "bags of what?"

If documents they should have photographed and scanned. Same with pics and any actual ofusical evidence had to be catalogued and photographed

And there must be a computer trail for the items
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33829 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 3:38 pm to
I was hoping it was just a case where they gave them to a diversity hire with instructions to get rid of it before they left the office.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
20002 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 4:05 pm to
The process you just described sounds like the billions of dollars, and 100s of procedures the airlines go through to ensure the safe security of your luggage.....and they lose approximately 100,000 bags worldwide each day.

Sounds like the good guys just saved the bags for future use.

Someone with the hubris of comey brennan et al would never bother to ensure it was actually destroyed, thats for the peons.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
21137 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 4:09 pm to
In a well run outfit 2 people verify the material is burned. With the Biden boys, who knows.
Posted by AUJACK
Member since Sep 2020
1395 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 6:08 pm to
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Sounds like the good guys just saved the bags for future use


It's possible that the FSO had the foresight or someone in the chain of command put the brakes on destroying it knowing that it might contain evidence or could have been just plain dumb luck the bags weren't destroyed.

The FBI employees knew a purge was coming, some bailed before they were fired. Some of the items contained in the bags may have been from the rats that jumped ship.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14728 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:40 am to
After 2020 election they thought they would always be in Power to control the flow of information.


Example, Adam Schiff!
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
13316 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:43 am to
The person who was supposed to burn the bags was a DEI hire maybe.
Posted by bayou2
New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2007
3919 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 11:07 am to


... things are really heating up ...

What's in the bag yo'
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