re: Can somebody explain the burning bags to me?

Probably were stashed away from the pile of bags that go down to the incinerator in a corner.

In SCIFs there are always partially full burn bags around. They didn't intend to destroy them , just hide the documents.

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The fact that they were "found in a secret room" means they're going to retcon this whole thing. That 2 page statement that came out saying there was no client list and Epstein died by suicide ended up causing a frick ton more trouble than I think the admin expected. They thought that by saying it, everyone would just move on. Instead, the complete opposite happened.

By finding these, they're able to work their way back from that insulting statement and suddenly find more meat on the bone.

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I don't believe Dan's nor Kash's "secret rooms" had anything to do with the Epstein shite.

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If true, this means there are still patriots inside who are willing to risk a lot for their country.

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What is the risk now?

They will be heroes

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Obvious question is why didn’t they burn them?

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I had always assumed that any incriminating evidence would have been burned long ago.

BUT - it may be that 'burning' classified or sensitive instruments may have some permanent documentary requirements describing who authorized it - why it is being destroyed - etc.

Maybe nobody wanted their signature on that document in the event that someone had a 'copy' and questioned its disposition later and kept hoping they could hide it away until the big orange monster went away.

But I would like to know the process - and why they failed to protect themselves this badly.

Sounds suspiciously fishy to me that it would still be laying around.

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Here is what I heard from a guy on a podcast that is in the know. I think it was Mike Benz explaining it, but don't hold it to me....

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What was the Pod?

Or maybe it’s another lie.

Two tours in an IC agency as a field grade military officer. Retired in 2013. This is how burn bags worked when I was in. Take it FWIW.

If you printed something classified, there were two ways to destroy it - you walked over to a shredder and shredded the document or you put it in a burn bag. Most analysts chose the latter option, because it didn’t require you to shred something as soon as you were done with it. You could throw it in the bag and wait - usually months - until dealing with it.

Burn bags were controlled and regulated. There wasn’t a communal or office burn bag - each was specific to a person. Mine was next to my desk.

When the bag - which was a doubled oversized paper grocery bag - was full, you’d fold the top over and tape it so it was securely closed, and mark it with your name, agency, contact number, and highest level of classification of the contents (TS/SCI/HCS in most SCIFs). You’d then drop it off at the pickup point for your office, which was usually in a corner or cubicle that was not being used in your work area.

When there was a sufficient amount of full bags - 30-40, the admin staff would collect them and drop them off at a specific location and time in the building (a burn bag run) to be taken away by a team (contractors) to a facility to be destroyed. A burn bag run was a controlled, documented event.

I share this to say, if burn bags containing years old information were discovered, it wasn’t an accident. These things don’t just lay around in a well run SCIF.

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The most probable conclusion from these facts is that one of the key conspirators is cooperating.

Which means they have everything.

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I believe this is true.

I don’t think Trump, Tulsi, or anyone else in the administration would be speaking out so loudly and clearly

If they didn’t already have the goods


I also have to think that the evil bastids all know this


Their actions now will tell everything

Okay - I don't think I'm telling family "secrets" (pun intended) here, but there is a long list of protocols that must be followed to handle/disseminate/access/transport/destroy classified information.

The container must be certified to the highest level of the material. The courier has to be certified/cleared, the electronic system, the markings, the shredder, the bag, the scanner, the file cabinet, the lock on the file cabinet, and it goes on an on.

Just imagine a person with severe paranoia wrote a bunch of government regulations that then got tweaked by government lawyers and then sent to manufacturers to actually make the stuff while scratching their heads.

And, things like Hillary's server, Joe's garage and Trump's document stash in MAL all still happen. Snowden still happens, etc.

So, what I'm asking everyone to do is to take a deep breath and let the information flow develop on this. Is skepticism warranted? Sure. Is this kind of thing wholly outside of the plausible window? Not at all. Mishandling and so forth happens all the time. We just hope it isn't fatal.