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Camille Paglia bringing the heat (and the truth)!!!

Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:37 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:37 am
LINK

Some nuggets:

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Drunk with words, spin, and snark, middle-class journalists can't be bothered to notice the complex physical constructions that make modern civilization possible. The laborers who build and maintain these marvels are recognized only if they can be shoehorned into victim status. But if they dare to think for themselves and vote differently from their liberal overlords, they are branded as rubes and pariahs.


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The reluctance or inability of Western liberals to candidly confront jihadism has been catastrophically counterproductive insofar as it has inspired an ongoing upsurge in right-wing politics in Europe and the United States. Citizens have an absolute right to demand basic security from their government. The contortions to which so many liberals resort to avoid connecting bombings, massacres, persecutions, and cultural vandalism to Islamic jihadism is remarkable, given their usual animosity to religion, above all Christianity.


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It is certainly ironic how liberals who posture as defenders of science when it comes to global warming (a sentimental myth unsupported by evidence) flee all reference to biology when it comes to gender. Biology has been programmatically excluded from women's studies and gender studies programs for almost 50 years now. Thus very few current gender studies professors and theorists, here and abroad, are intellectually or scientifically prepared to teach their subjects


I have a serious crush on this woman's mind.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111489 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:39 am to
Incisive as always.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118550 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:53 am to
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In it she argues among other things, that the pharmaceutical industry, having lost income when routine estrogen therapy for menopausal women was abandoned because of its health risks, has been promoting the relatively new idea of transgenderism in order to create a permanent class of customers who will need to take prescribed hormones for life.


I know this is just anecdotal however there are so many stories like this concerning the pharmaceutical industry it's hard to believe there is not an unspoken systemic conspiracy in the sector, driven by money of course. This is especially true with cancer treatment.
Posted by tiger7166
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
2616 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:58 am to
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Camille Paglia is one America's smartest and most fearless writers. Like Elvis, she's the kind of superstar who really needs no introduction—though it is worth pointing out that



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Camille Paglia: Some background is necessary. First of all, I must make my political affiliations crystal clear. I am a registered Democrat who voted for Bernie Sanders in the 2016 primary and for Jill Stein in the general election. Since last Fall, I've had my eye on Kamala Harris, the new senator from California, and I hope to vote for her in the next presidential primary.


Does not compute
Posted by bigwheel
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2008
6491 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:11 am to
Interesting read. Long but good.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64066 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:19 am to
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Does not compute


It does for hurricane Camille. Never try to put her in a neat easy to understand box. It won't work

Love reading her stuff!
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7175 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:54 am to
"Does not compute"

I humbly suggest that you take some time to learn a little about Ms. Paglia. She is an intellectual in the best sense of the word with a mind that is not to be trifled with. Yes, she is a liberal and a feminist but she is unafraid of challenging either conservative or liberal orthodoxy. Indeed, it says a great deal about what has happened to our politics that Camille Paglia, of all people, often finds herself opposing, at least in part, the liberalism of today.

By the way, I do not share Paglia's political views and would never vote for a socialist like Sanders or Stein. I do respect her well considered brand of liberalism and feminism.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112363 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:55 am to
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I have a serious crush on this woman's mind.


Her writing is excellent. But watching her lecture to a crowd and then take Q and A is amazing stuff.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112363 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:01 am to
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Does not compute


The best way to think of Camille is to compare traditional liberal positions and the overreach that follows:
IE, the EPA was created to clean up air and water pollution. Now, they label CO2 as pollution.
The Civil rights movement wanted blacks to be able to attend white colleges. Now, they want safe spaces at those colleges.

Camille is a traditional feminist. They wanted women to be free to pursue lifestyles previously restricted to them. Now they have morphed into a man hating movement.

Her status as a Democrat is the same story. She's a JFK Democrat who sees the current Dem party as overreaching.

She is a huge fan of classical Western Civilization. One of her specialties is Ancient Athens. I highly recommend her book Vamps and Tramps.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7175 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:10 am to
"But watching her lecture to a crowd and then take Q and A is amazing stuff."

If she ever does a lecture in this area, I would go in a heartbeat. I wish she was more commonly interviewed on television.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:12 am to
Paglia is part of a small but dying breed of intellectually honest liberals. Alan Dershowitz is another one. They are died in the wool liberals and Democrats but they are intellectually honest and won't just tow the line if they can't justify it. These folks are Boomers that grew up in the '60s as intellectuals prior to their movements being taken over by hacks that espouse the Saul Alinsky style of radicalism. I had a couple of profs like this when I was in school but they are a dying breed.

Todays liberals demand conformity and consider dissent to be evil. It's Animal Farm over and over again.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112363 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:16 am to
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but they are intellectually honest


A good example of this with Camille is abortion. Her position is 'I'm very pro choice. Abortion should be available to any woman for any reason. HOWEVER, don't insult my intelligence by claiming 'it's not a baby.' Of course it's a baby."
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57016 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:22 am to
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Paglia is part of a small but dying breed of intellectually honest liberals.
This. She is an actual liberal in the correct and true definition of the word. I don't always agree with true liberals--but I can usually follow their reasoning and respect how they got there.

It a stark contrast to the modern "liberal" that's really just a thinly disguised fascist hiding behind a cloak of sanctimony, self-ritcheousness, and faux intellectualism. They have no tolerance and don't really want diversity. Quite the opposite. They are every bit as repulsive as the wacko religious-right.

I miss real liberals. We need them back.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57712 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:23 am to
Some of my favorite quotes from the article;


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Liberalism of the 1950s and '60s exalted civil liberties, individualism, and dissident thought and speech. "Question authority" was our generational rubric when I was in college. But today's liberalism has become grotesquely mechanistic and authoritarian: It's all about reducing individuals to a group identity, defining that group in permanent victim terms, and denying others their democratic right to challenge that group and its ideology. Political correctness represents the fossilized institutionalization of once-vital revolutionary ideas, which have become mere rote formulas. It is repressively Stalinist, dependent on a labyrinthine, parasitic bureaucracy to enforce its empty dictates.



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The cold biological truth is that sex changes are impossible. Every single cell of the human body remains coded with one's birth gender for life. Intersex ambiguities can occur, but they are developmental anomalies that represent a tiny proportion of all human births. In a democracy, everyone, no matter how nonconformist or eccentric, should be free from harassment and abuse. But at the same time, no one deserves special rights, protections, or privileges on the basis of their eccentricity. I reject state-sponsored coercion to call someone a "woman" or a "man" simply on the basis of his or her subjective feeling about it.


Thanks for sharing. If more liberals thought this way, the world would be a much smoother place to live.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26608 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:24 am to
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She is an intellectual in the best sense of the word with a mind that is not to be trifled with. Yes, she is a liberal and a feminist but she is unafraid of challenging either conservative or liberal orthodoxy. Indeed, it says a great deal about what has happened to our politics that Camille Paglia, of all people, often finds herself opposing, at least in part, the liberalism of today.


I can respect this.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57106 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:34 am to
She's a liberal whom I respect and enjoy reading her columns.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:35 am to
Smart lady. Wow.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98290 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:51 am to
I have been a fan ever since I read Sex, Art and American Culture when it came out in 1992
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 10:52 am
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112363 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:56 am to
Camille has also flipped her support of Hillary. Her rationale for the change was succinct and brilliant...
20 years ago she supported Hillary because Hillary was a strong woman. Today, Hillary is a whiny 'poor me'. Strong women do not whine.
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:58 am to
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I have a serious crush on this woman's mind.



agreed....I certainly don't agree with her candidate choices and some views, but she definitely brings heavy intellectual artillery to her battles
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