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CABL Issue Survey of JBE and Abraham

Posted on 8/28/19 at 11:28 am
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14473 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 11:28 am
Everyone who could vote in LA should really take a look and get informed.

JBE on the issues

Quick take: for budget stability, wants to increase teacher pay, invest in roads, not keen on changing the constitution. And Jindal was terrible.

Abraham on the issues

Quick take: Need to improve the economy, eliminate franchise tax and lower taxes overall, increase gas tax only after a bunch of other reforms, need to address pension reform, centralize sales tax collections, fix the constitution through amendments.


Great read for everyone. If you think I misrepresented something in my own summary please correct!

Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14473 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 12:06 pm to
Also, I have no idea why Rispone didn't take the survey.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 12:17 pm to
thanks for posting. also

quote:

no idea why Rispone didn't take the survey

WTF

Posted by Rock the Casbah
Member since Dec 2014
940 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 12:37 pm to
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Also, I have no idea why Rispone didn't take the survey.


Boom, there it is.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 12:42 pm to


Seriously, good survey. Definitely a huge bitch move not to take it.
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8588 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 12:46 pm to
I don't care what any politician SAYS or promises. We can look at JBE's past resume. I say hard past on him again.

What he has done is enough for me to see
This post was edited on 8/28/19 at 12:47 pm
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8588 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Also, I have no idea why Rispone didn't take the survey.



Boom, there it is.




That's some funny stuff. He should've taken survey.
Posted by Brummy
Central, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4495 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 1:04 pm to
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fix the constitution through amendments.

While I'm glad Abraham at least recognizes how screwed up the state constitution is, unlike JBE who apparently thinks it's just fine, a huge reason why it's so jacked up is all the amendments that have been added to it over 40+ years, most of which are for things that should be statutory rather than constitutional. Just blow it up and start over.

I'm also baffled why Rispone wouldn't take the survey and lay out his positions considering he has no prior political history for reference.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57126 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 1:11 pm to
JBE sure was quick to trot out Bobby Jindal, but are people to dense to realize that Edwards supported most of Mowgli's budgets?

quote:

While I'm glad Abraham at least recognizes how screwed up the state constitution is, unlike JBE who apparently thinks it's just fine, a huge reason why it's so jacked up is all the amendments that have been added to it over 40+ years, most of which are for things that should be statutory rather than constitutional. Just blow it up and start over.


What I don't understand is how the legislature could repeal Stelly when it was a constitutional amendment. Why did it not require a vote of the people to end this program?
This post was edited on 8/28/19 at 1:15 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

Also, I have no idea why Rispone didn't take the survey.



Rispone may mean well but I have been less than impressed by the accessibility of his campaign and the candidate himself.

Just take a look at his social media feeds on twitter and facebook and it's very low engird and the same cookie cutter stuff, posts very few pictures and it gets real obvious whoever he has handling his social media doesn't even try to mimic him on top of not being very responsive.

Compare and contrast that with Ralph Abraham who's very active on social media, constantly posts pictures of where he goes and who he's with, takes JBE to task for the crappy job he's done and he or whoever is running his account literally responds to a lot of comments on facebook whether it be thanking people of their declarations of support for him or questions or suggestions.

Goddamn it. Why does the first Louisiana gubernatorial candidate that supports a constitutional convention in decades have to be like this?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
36989 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Also, I have no idea why Rispone didn't take the survey.


Damn. Why are you spending 10 mil of your own money, and then you do shite like this? CABL isn't LABI but it's not some far-left hatchet job, either.

Also, that line from JBL about LA having 5th lowest state/local tax burden? How recent is that? I now that used to be the case but I wasn't sure after the sales tax increases.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6438 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:01 pm to
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Goddamn it. Why does the first Louisiana gubernatorial candidate that supports a constitutional convention in decades have to be like this?


I have still never heard him say that. I have never heard him say anything state specific except that he supports vocation education. Whatever that mean s.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14473 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:04 pm to
Pretty sure that is a 2016 ranking based on 2012 data.

LINK /

If y'all can find more recent data, I would love to see it.
Would love if the media called him on such nonsense, but not going to hold my breath.

This post was edited on 8/28/19 at 2:06 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

I have still never heard him say that.


Here it is.

quote:

Only Rispone, a Baton Rouge businessman running for governor, wholeheartedly endorses the convention “to address structural changes in our constitution so we can be competitive when it comes to taxes, we can be competitive when it comes to education, we can take the shackles off our local government.”


Advocate
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23001 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:08 pm to
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2019/03/05/taxes-2019-where-income-sales-and-property-tax-highest-us/39124869/

46. Louisiana
• Taxes paid as percentage of income: 7.6 percent
• Income per capita: $43,660 (11th lowest)
• Income tax collections per capita: $612 (13th lowest)
• Property tax collections per capita: $869 (8th lowest)
• General sales tax collections per capita: $680 (14th lowest)
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23001 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:09 pm to
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Would love if the media called him on such nonsense, but not going to hold my breath.


I don't think it's nonsense according to the link I found.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14473 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

What I don't understand is how the legislature could repeal Stelly when it was a constitutional amendment. Why did it not require a vote of the people to end this program?


So "Stelly" was really two parts. Part one was adding sales tax exemptions to the constitution (groceries, meds and residential utilities). Part two made up the lost revenue by increasing income tax by changing the brackets and eliminating the excess itemized deduction.

Part one is the constitutional part and it still exists.
Half of part two was eliminated under Blanco (but you never hear that). I think it was the brackets. And then the other half was eliminated under Jindal (who opposed it initially, but then jumped on board at the end).

So the repeal was really only a half repeal. We added some enormous exemptions to the constitution and then cut income tax. This combined with the 2009 recession and falling revenue from Katrina lead Jindal to use a ton of budget gimmicks along with some cuts to keep the budget running.

This post was edited on 8/28/19 at 3:10 pm
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14473 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

I don't think it's nonsense according to the link I found.


Read your link:

quote:

To identify the states with the highest and lowest tax burdens, 24/7 Wall St. reviewed state and local tax burdens as a share of state residents’ income in fiscal 2012 provided by tax policy think tank Tax Foundation.


You think JBE should be able to claim credit for low taxes in 2012???
This post was edited on 8/28/19 at 2:16 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40070 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

Also, I have no idea why Rispone didn't take the survey.



After watching his commercials and the fact that he is not participating in an issues survey makes me think that he is the most politically inept person in history or a democratic plant.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35861 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:48 pm to
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After watching his commercials and the fact that he is not participating in an issues survey makes me think that he is the most politically inept person in history or a democratic plant.


He’s not s Democrat so.,,,.....
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