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CA ripping off farmers
Posted by Crimson Wraith on 6/16/19 at 8:07 am140
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John Diepersloot squinted under a bright Central Valley sun, pointing to the damage to his fruit orchard that came with the California bullet train.
He lost 70 acres of prime land. Rail contractors left mounds of rubble along his neat rows. Irrigation hoses are askew. A sophisticated canopy system for a kiwi field, supported by massive steel cables, was torn down.
But what really irritates Diepersloot is the $250,000 that he paid out of his own pocket for relocating wells, removing trees, building a road and other expenses.
“I am out a quarter-million bucks on infrastructure, and they haven’t paid a dime for a year,” he said. “I don’t have that kind of money.”
Up and down the San Joaquin Valley, farmers have similar stories. The state can take land with a so-called order of possession by the Superior Court while it haggles over the price.
But farmers often face out-of-pocket costs for lost production, road replacement, repositioning of irrigation systems and other expenses, which the state agrees to pay before the final settlement.
Those payments and even some payments for land have stretched out to three years. State officials have offered endless excuses for not paying, the farmers say.
“They are bogged down,” said Mark Wasser, an eminent domain attorney in Sacramento who has represented more than 70 farmers and other businesses losing land to the rail project. “I would draw an analogy to Napoleon’s invasion of Russia.”
Tim Raven, a walnut and almond grower, is owed $500,000, he told The Times. John Tos, a big grower who has waged a legal battle against the project, says the state owes him $150,000. Wasser says Brenda Church, a former client, has been owed $1.9 million for three years. Ray Carter, who voluntarily sold his farmland, says he has been owed $630,000 for three years.
Carter’s brother-in-law, Vince Carter, also could not collect money for farm property that the California High-Speed Rail Authority took, which gave him a “lot of frustration,” Ray Carter said. “He died of a heart attack. I think it played a role in what happened.”
Asked about the allegations of nonpayment, the rail authority issued a statement, though it did not explain why the problem existed.
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John Diepersloot squinted under a bright Central Valley sun, pointing to the damage to his fruit orchard that came with the California bullet train.
He lost 70 acres of prime land. Rail contractors left mounds of rubble along his neat rows. Irrigation hoses are askew. A sophisticated canopy system for a kiwi field, supported by massive steel cables, was torn down.
But what really irritates Diepersloot is the $250,000 that he paid out of his own pocket for relocating wells, removing trees, building a road and other expenses.
“I am out a quarter-million bucks on infrastructure, and they haven’t paid a dime for a year,” he said. “I don’t have that kind of money.”
Up and down the San Joaquin Valley, farmers have similar stories. The state can take land with a so-called order of possession by the Superior Court while it haggles over the price.
But farmers often face out-of-pocket costs for lost production, road replacement, repositioning of irrigation systems and other expenses, which the state agrees to pay before the final settlement.
Those payments and even some payments for land have stretched out to three years. State officials have offered endless excuses for not paying, the farmers say.
“They are bogged down,” said Mark Wasser, an eminent domain attorney in Sacramento who has represented more than 70 farmers and other businesses losing land to the rail project. “I would draw an analogy to Napoleon’s invasion of Russia.”
Tim Raven, a walnut and almond grower, is owed $500,000, he told The Times. John Tos, a big grower who has waged a legal battle against the project, says the state owes him $150,000. Wasser says Brenda Church, a former client, has been owed $1.9 million for three years. Ray Carter, who voluntarily sold his farmland, says he has been owed $630,000 for three years.
Carter’s brother-in-law, Vince Carter, also could not collect money for farm property that the California High-Speed Rail Authority took, which gave him a “lot of frustration,” Ray Carter said. “He died of a heart attack. I think it played a role in what happened.”
Asked about the allegations of nonpayment, the rail authority issued a statement, though it did not explain why the problem existed.
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re: CA ripping off farmersPosted by Tchefuncte Tiger on 6/16/19 at 8:08 am to Crimson Wraith
This is what communist nations do. Get used to it, comrade, you voted for these clowns.
re: CA ripping off farmersPosted by WylieTiger on 6/16/19 at 8:09 am to Crimson Wraith
They are too busy paying out free benefits to all of the illegals. They don't have time for those farmers.
re: CA ripping off farmersPosted by MorningWood on 6/16/19 at 9:04 am to Crimson Wraith
But yet they bitch about A little land for the wall
re: CA ripping off farmersPosted by idlewatcher on 6/16/19 at 9:04 am to Crimson Wraith
Screw those farmers and their privilege. There are more illegals that need to be well fed and stipend’ed brah.
re: CA ripping off farmersPosted by TenWheelsForJesus on 6/16/19 at 9:20 am to Crimson Wraith
But Pelosi and Feinstein made bank off of it, and that is all that matters.
re: CA ripping off farmersPosted by bmy on 6/16/19 at 11:03 am to Crimson Wraith
quote:
But what really irritates Diepersloot is the $250,000 that he paid out of his own pocket for relocating wells, removing trees, building a road and other expenses.
“I am out a quarter-million bucks on infrastructure, and they haven’t paid a dime for a year,” he said. “I don’t have that kind of money.”
why the frick would he pay out of pocket for anything development related? i'm not saying the government is blameless but i guarantee that there is more to the story than this gentlemen paying 250k in advance out of the kindness of his heart
This post was edited on 6/16 at 11:05 am
re: CA ripping off farmersPosted by LSUconvert on 6/16/19 at 11:16 am to Crimson Wraith
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I am out a quarter-million bucks on infrastructure, and they haven’t paid a dime for a year
Lying POS
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re: CA ripping off farmersPosted by LSUnation78 on 6/16/19 at 11:17 am to bmy
You really are this dumb.
re: CA ripping off farmersPosted by omegaman66 on 6/16/19 at 11:22 am to bmy
BMY you are an idiot. You know damn well that he paid out of his own pocket because he didn't expect the gov't to not pay him back on the money that they OWE HIM!
I am so sick of you and your lies and crappy arse post. If I get banned for this so be it. But I hope they deport your sorry arse to anywhere outside of this country. You suck as a poster. It is sick that there or others just as stupid as you that vote the same way you stupid arse votes.
You deserve a one way ticket to Venezuela!
I am so sick of you and your lies and crappy arse post. If I get banned for this so be it. But I hope they deport your sorry arse to anywhere outside of this country. You suck as a poster. It is sick that there or others just as stupid as you that vote the same way you stupid arse votes.
You deserve a one way ticket to Venezuela!
This post was edited on 6/16 at 12:10 pm
re: CA ripping off farmersPosted by RockyMtnTigerWDE on 6/16/19 at 11:36 am to bmy
You’re a complete moron and may be retarded as well.
re: CA ripping off farmersPosted by TigerAxeOK on 6/16/19 at 11:48 am to Crimson Wraith
A hyper-liberal state government promised people money because those people had something the government needed... but then kept that money and instead redistributed it to help pay for illegal immigrants and cleanup crews to handle the "shite-on-streets" and hypodermic needle waste epidemics left by homeless transients in the ultra-lib coastal cities?
I'm shocked, I tell you.
I'm shocked, I tell you.
Bless your heart.
This is how it works....
The gov't comes in and tells you they are taking the land and will pay you for it.
It is then up to you relocate the crops, irrigation system, equipment, etc... with the idea that you will be reimbursed for those expenses.
That is why he would pay out of pocket....to keep farming and not have that stuff damaged he has to invest in that.
This is how it works....
The gov't comes in and tells you they are taking the land and will pay you for it.
It is then up to you relocate the crops, irrigation system, equipment, etc... with the idea that you will be reimbursed for those expenses.
That is why he would pay out of pocket....to keep farming and not have that stuff damaged he has to invest in that.
This post was edited on 6/16 at 1:33 pm
re: CA ripping off farmersPosted by gthog61 on 6/16/19 at 1:47 pm to LSUconvert
quote:
I am out a quarter-million bucks on infrastructure, and they haven’t paid a dime for a year
Lying POS
I hope the government you vermin love so much fricks you right in the arse just like this some day but then your type will probably never have anything worthwhile for them to steal.
re: CA ripping off farmersPosted by bmy on 6/16/19 at 2:45 pm to omegaman66
quote:
BMY you are an idiot. You know damn well that he paid out of his own pocket because he didn't expect the gov't to not pay him back on the money that they OWE HIM!
Doubt it
re: CA ripping off farmersPosted by trinidadtiger on 6/16/19 at 2:47 pm to Crimson Wraith
The rep for that area was one of the deciding votes for the rail. Perhaps he should stop voting dem?????? I remember it was big news how the rep laughed about them getting billions to start the project there in the boonies.
Obama even specifically designated money for that area because one of the congressmen voted for obamacare.
Obama even specifically designated money for that area because one of the congressmen voted for obamacare.
re: CA ripping off farmersPosted by crazycubes on 6/16/19 at 2:51 pm to Crimson Wraith
Why not sit on your property with a gun and say, “land is yours as soon as the money is wired”
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