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Breaking WAPO (fake news): POTUS explores pardon legality
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:36 pm
WAPO
Here we go folks.
RAFAEL Madcow is getting hard Live on air right now.
Here we go folks.
RAFAEL Madcow is getting hard Live on air right now.
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:45 pm to Covingtontiger77
So maybe the lawyers can clarify, but it is my understanding that criminal charges against a sitting president are unlikely. So wouldn't he have to be impeached then removed from office first?
Then he wouldn't be able to pardon himself, right?
Then he wouldn't be able to pardon himself, right?
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:45 pm to Covingtontiger77
(itsabouttogodown gif)
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:48 pm to Covingtontiger77
Trump should go 'nuclear' if Meuller/His Hillary Hack Attornerys come back with all manner of supposed 'crimes' on Trump per the 'Martha Stewart/Scooter Libby' version...while totally ignoring (REAL OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE) Hillary, Comey, Lynch et al outright illegality.
Trump should declare that he WILL appoint an SC to investigate Meuller and the whole Dem cartel, if they ignore these crimes. And he should pardon - up front - any bs 'indictments' that Meuller refers.
Call their bluff...and call on Trump Nation to back him up.
Meuller has one shot. The old days of double standard applications of Law are gone. He'd better be TOTALLY HONEST....or hell will break loose.
Trump should declare that he WILL appoint an SC to investigate Meuller and the whole Dem cartel, if they ignore these crimes. And he should pardon - up front - any bs 'indictments' that Meuller refers.
Call their bluff...and call on Trump Nation to back him up.
Meuller has one shot. The old days of double standard applications of Law are gone. He'd better be TOTALLY HONEST....or hell will break loose.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:49 pm to buckeye_vol
But why O why would MAGA have to pardon himself? After all, he has said himself, he has done NOTHING wrong!
Even Nixon refused to pardon himself, as was discussed on "Madcow".
Even Nixon refused to pardon himself, as was discussed on "Madcow".
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:50 pm to RCDfan1950
quote:How can his lawyers build a defense about the scope of the investigation, then argue for a scope exponentially broader?
Trump should declare that he WILL appoint an SC to investigate Meuller and the whole Dem cartel, if they ignore these crimes.
And why would Mueller investigate that when his own justice department can?
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:50 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
So maybe the lawyers can clarify, but it is my understanding that criminal charges against a sitting president are unlikely. So wouldn't he have to be impeached then removed from office first?
Then he wouldn't be able to pardon himself, right?
He can pardon all of his co-conspirators, maybe except one or two just to give the public the blood they crave, then resign and let Pence pardon him. Basically, just like Nixon did. They've handled everything else about this situation the same way Nixon did, so why stop now?
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:51 pm to Covingtontiger77
@lauferlaw twitter
you're welcome
you're welcome
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:52 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
He should just pardon everyone and be done with it. Election isn't for 3 and half years, nobody but dems will care
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:52 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
So maybe the lawyers can clarify, but it is my understanding that criminal charges against a sitting president are unlikely. So wouldn't he have to be impeached then removed from office first?
Then he wouldn't be able to pardon himself, right?
Everything I have read concludes that there is a lot of precedent that criminal charges against a sitting president are probably impossible to litigate.
So in respect to the president,impeachment seems like the only outcome for removal.
Now the random people in his orbit? That is really questionable and would certainly be enormously precedent breaking to try and pre-empt people you are associated with under a potential criminal investigation with a pardon.
The fact they are looking at this probably doesn't bode well for the "mah Russians is a hoax" crowd.
Though they will certainly tune into Hannity and Rush to tell them how best to try.
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:54 pm to bonhoeffer45
Are you people reading the same article I'm reading?
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:56 pm to Nuts4LSU
quote:I know these are just regulations, as Ford didn't abide by them, unless these were created afterwards. However, the DOJ requires a 5 year waiting period from the conviction.
He can pardon all of his co-conspirators, maybe except one or two just to give the public the blood they crave, then resign and let Pence pardon him. Basically, just like Nixon did. They've handled everything else about this situation the same way Nixon did, so why stop now?
RULES GOVERNING PETITIONS FOR EXECUTIVE CLEMENCY
quote:
No petition for pardon should be filed until the expiration of a waiting period of at least five years after the date of the release of the petitioner from confinement or, in case no prison sentence was imposed, until the expiration of a period of at least five years after the date of the conviction of the petitioner.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:56 pm to Nuts4LSU
Have him leave and Pence becomes President. Have Pence pardon him and name him Vice President. After that Pence resigns and has Trump name him VP.
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