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re: BREAKING: Officer Derek Chauvin is in custody

Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133532 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:01 pm to
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Imagine Trump coming out and saying this to the black community at 2pm.


Trump is irrelevant relative to my question to you. Your TDS is strong.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10412 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:02 pm to
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can't believe there are actually downvoters for this cop getting arrested


I can.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56860 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:02 pm to
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Pending charges.


Really?
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:02 pm to
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Maybe it's because Daniel Shaver was white that his murder wasn't "emotionally draining" for you, but that's on you. You can look him up, because you've probably never heard of him.

Unlike the race baiters and opportunists I feel the same way about both of them; they're both murders and cops frequently get away with too much. But I'm not going to pretend to be personally impacted or that I'm going through some huge drama.


I'm not as familiar with this one, but was he begging for his life for 9 minutes while being killed calmly and nonchalantly?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56860 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:03 pm to
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Accessory to murder.


Ah, so you don't want to see the other officers penalized. Got it.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26888 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:03 pm to
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I'm not as familiar with this one,


I'm not surprised, and I know why you're not familiar with it. And why you probably don't care.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125246 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:04 pm to
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In 2016, the department rewrote its use of force policy with a focus on the “sanctity of life.” The new rules also required officers to intervene when a fellow cop became abusive.


That’s not a law. That’s a work policy. That’s why you get fired. Not charged.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:06 pm to
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I'm not as familiar with this one, but was he begging for his life for 9 minutes while being killed calmly and nonchalantly?



Gee I wonder why you aren't familiar.

So now it's a comparison of how they died? You're sick as frick
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42184 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:06 pm to
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YOU won't tell me or my community how to feel about this, much less someone like my grandmother who experienced racism and is having to relive it again in 2020.


So because grandma experienced racism 80 years ago, that means burning your own city down is justified and other people who don’t act like animals are not allowed to have an opinion? Do you realize how absurd that is?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35684 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:07 pm to
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They actively prevented others from rendering aid. Not sure that’s a crime though


Here is what I could find re: liability for crimes committed by others. It seems like the standard is higher than merely allowing something to happen, or even just preventing others from interfering.

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A person is criminally liable for a crime committed by another if the person intentionally aids, advises, hires, counsels, or conspires with or otherwise procures the other to commit the crime.


Perhaps you can make an argument that they aided Chauvin in subduing Floyd and even in kneeling on his neck, if the theory is that Chauvin is guilty of third degree murder or manslaughter. But that seems like a stretch IMO, and would be tough to show in court.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:07 pm to
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I'm not as familiar with this one, but was he begging for his life for 9 minutes while being killed calmly and nonchalantly

Watch the video. It's actually worse than the Floyd case because they literally are making fun of him while he's on the ground. He was pinned for 14 minutes

and mind you he is the person who called 911 because he was scared and told him he was off his meds.

He literally called for help and ended up dead
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 1:08 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35684 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:08 pm to
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That’s not a law. That’s a work policy. That’s why you get fired. Not charged.


Yep. That policy is going to cost the officers a ton of money in the pending civil suit. Disregarding or going against/beyond department policy is going to wreck their qualified immunity defenses.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:09 pm to
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tigerinDC09

I'm just checking but you do realize that you are a raging racist right? This isn't lost on you correct?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:09 pm to
Clearly this was only because of the protests.
Posted by Baldy
Member since May 2020
441 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:10 pm to
"Can't arrest guy for standing there"

Unless it happens to be on the back of a person in your custody and control?
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42184 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:10 pm to
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I'm just checking but you do realize that you are a raging racist right? This isn't lost on you correct?


He is absolutely a racist. Guy hates white people.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16506 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:11 pm to
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Good catch. It seems to me that based on the statute that that could actually be the charge for the cop that knelt on his neck (3rd degree murder). The case being that there was not an "intent" to murder but his "perpetrating an act" that was dangerous and led to his death was a depraved act with no regard to his life.

I called it.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:11 pm to
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Clearly this was only because of the protests.


Theyre charging 3rd degree murder and manslaughter.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:11 pm to
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He is absolutely a racist. Guy hates white people.


That's what makes it so ridiculous. he's probably the most racist person he knows or has even thought of meeting
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:12 pm to
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"Can't arrest guy for standing there"

Unless it happens to be on the back of a person in your custody and control?


The DA just said theyre looking at charges for them.
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