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re: BREAKING: Officer Derek Chauvin is in custody

Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42003 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:28 pm to
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What the frick was all the rioting for?


Encouragement and opportunity.

Like I said, the cop needs to go to jail, but so do the looters and arsonists.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35687 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:28 pm to
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Its probably against police protocol to actively fight other cops who are applying unnecessary force during an arrest.




To the contrary, I’m almost certain that everY law enforcement agency in the United States has policies that require their officers to do exactly that if a fellow officer is violating someone’s constitutional rights.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:28 pm to
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Plenty of retards on here defended that cop too



Who?

they should be completely ignored on this board for eternity.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:29 pm to
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You think he is arrested if there were no protests

So now not only are you racist but you are psychic too.

Yeah. It's pretty much a certainty he was going to be arrested they fired the guy in like 5 minutes. It's not like they circled the wagons
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26910 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:29 pm to
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Plenty of retards on here defended that cop too


I'd say less than 10% of this board.

I wonder what percent of progressive forums, like DA, are defending the looters?

More than "plenty" I'd bet.
Posted by Mrwhodat
Member since Dec 2015
10296 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:29 pm to
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the cop needs to go to jail

Paging: Jack Ruby.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35687 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:30 pm to
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3rd degree doesn't require intent:


It doesn’t require intent to cause death. But the officers intent to disregard life or put someone in an eminently dangerous situation is relevant.

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know that if I put my full weight on a person's neck for 6+ minutes I have the potential to kill him. He should know that as well.


Of course he should. But, all he has to say is that he didn’t realize his knee was on his neck or restricting his airway, or that he did not believe there was any eminent danger, etc.

I’m just playing devils advocate here, of course, but never underestimate the creativity of a good defense attorney and their ability to gaslight at least one juror.
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 1:33 pm
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:31 pm to
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You are a racist. There are definitely bad people on both sides and you are one of them


Ok, not gonna win you over but if the playbook is to call black people racist, then please proceed.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93243 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:31 pm to
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So now not only are you racist but you are psychic too.



Unreal. It took destroying a city to get justice!

What a thing to be excited about
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:32 pm to
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Ok, not gonna win you over

How could you? I hate racists.

quote:

playbook is to call black people racist,
I didn't call black people racist. I called you one.

Surely you don't have delusions of representing all black people
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42003 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:32 pm to
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You think he is arrested if there were no protests?


Straw man. You could argue that if the victim wasn’t being investigated for using counterfeit bills, then he is arrested. It is a dumb argument, just like the BS that you are spewing.

In short, you don’t know but still insist on acting as though you do. Like I said, you are coming across as an emotional wreck.

Prayers to Mr. Floyd’s family and I want to see that cop do time.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26355 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:33 pm to
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They will have to show that kneeling on the guy was eminently dangerous, and that the officer knew that and disregarded that risk. Not saying that’s impossible, it’s just something that is tough to prove beyond reasonable doubt. All the officer has to say is that he didn’t realize his knee was closing off his airway and that his impression was that he was kneeling on Floyd’s back. Like I said, just leaves wiggle room for the defense to play with.



Those defenses are still about what he knew or realized. This charge makes that irrelevant. This charge is purely about the actions taken.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125311 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:33 pm to
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You think he is arrested if there were no protests?


Yes. He was administratively fired before the protests. You’re so fricking stupid that it hurts.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16514 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:34 pm to
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They will have to show that kneeling on the guy was eminently dangerous, and that the officer knew that and disregarded that risk. Not saying that’s impossible, it’s just something that is tough to prove beyond reasonable doubt.

Dan Bongino pointed it out pretty clearly. He said if you watch the video the cop did not have his other foot or knee supported on the ground meaning he had his full body weight directed onto the neck of the man. A reasonable person would know doing this for 6 minutes could likely result in a person's death.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12451 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:34 pm to
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When I tell you to frick off, it is wrong. What charge?
if a cop stood there and watched your love one get killed, and kept anyone else from intervening, is it wrong?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35687 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:34 pm to
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You think he is arrested if there were no protests?


Unequivocally yes. Absolutely 1000000% yes. He was going to be arrested regardless of the riots and protests.

A better question would be whether he would have been arrested if there were no videos of the incident.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:34 pm to
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Yes. He was administratively fired before the protests. You’re so fricking stupid that it hurts

Being the most racist person on the board which he most certainly is will tend to make you incapable of interpreting information

They fired the dude the second they saw the video.

His arse was cooked from that moment
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11847 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:35 pm to
Ya this case send pretty cut and dry but I don't know anything about the courts in Minnesota you never know with this stuff lol
Posted by CheEngineer
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2019
4234 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:35 pm to
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They will have to show that kneeling on the guy was eminently dangerous, and that the officer knew that and disregarded that risk. Not saying that’s impossible, it’s just something that is tough to prove beyond reasonable doubt. All the officer has to say is that he didn’t realize his knee was closing off his airway and that his impression was that he was kneeling on Floyd’s back. Like I said, just leaves wiggle room for the defense to play with.


This is correct and the defense will roll picture after picture of policemen kneeling on backs/shoulders/necks that did not result in deaths along with testimony from policemen that have routinely used this method to gain control of individuals without it resulting in death.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:35 pm to
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Dan Bongino pointed it out pretty clearly. He said if you watch the video the cop did not have his other foot or knee supported on the ground meaning he had his full body weight directed onto the neck of the man. A reasonable person would know doing this for 6 minutes could likely result in a person's death.


and it may seem a small thing but his hands being in his pockets I think is going to end up being a big deal

It's going to make arguing that he felt Floyd was still a threat very challenging.
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