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re: BREAKING: Officer Derek Chauvin is in custody
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:21 pm to Indefatigable
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:21 pm to Indefatigable
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I agree. It leaves too much wiggle room for his defense as to what he intended to do, etc. Manslaughter has a much better chance of conviction, but ignorant people will riot because of that. Overcharging is not the answer and will lead to an acquittal.
3rd degree doesn't require intent:
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609.195 MURDER IN THE THIRD DEGREE.
(a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.
I know that if I put my full weight on a person's neck for 6+ minutes I have the potential to kill him. He should know that as well.
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 1:23 pm
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:21 pm to the808bass
Plenty of retards on here defended that cop too
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:21 pm to Indefatigable
quote:And I do understand that completely. I just think it would be ashame if they weren't charged because of the lack of a law when clearly what they did was wrong.
The non-existence of a criminal statute punishing that level of "complicit-ness" is not the fault of the court. Any fault for that would lie solely with the MN state legislature, who enacts such laws.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:21 pm to BeeFense5
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What personal experience made you hate white people?
I don't hate anyone.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:22 pm to BuckyCheese
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You clowns can't even get the names right.
Ah Chauvin. Thanks. Floyd is the guy who is dead for no good reason.
Do you have a problem with the substance of the post of were you just politely pointing out a mistake?
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:22 pm to ShortyRob
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You are no different than the KKK of 50 years ago
Fine people on both sides, huh.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:22 pm to Indefatigable
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He also won't get convicted of Murder 3.
I agree. It leaves too much wiggle room for his defense as to what he intended to do, etc. Manslaughter has a much better chance of conviction, but ignorant people will riot because of that. Overcharging is not the answer and will lead to an acquittal.
I don't believe his intent really matters with this charge.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:23 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
When I tell you to frick off, it is wrong. What charge?
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:23 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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And I do understand that completely. I just think it would be ashame if they weren't charged because of the lack of a law when clearly what they did was wrong.
Why didn’t a citizen stop it? Should we charge the people filming who didn’t stop it? If you say that’s ridiculous, you’re getting warmer.
I hope they remain fired and that they are unable to get jobs in law enforcement. But I don’t see how you proceed from the clearly ethically wrong behavior to legally wrong without some odd twists and turns.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:24 pm to Crimsonians
So this took 3 days?
What the frick was all the rioting for?
What the frick was all the rioting for?
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:24 pm to Mickey Goldmill
I guess we will see how this turns out.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:24 pm to Crimsonians
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When I tell you to frick off, it is wrong.
Nah.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:25 pm to tigerinDC09
I just heard the cop will be charged with murder. Now we can move on.
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:26 pm to tigerinDC09
quote:punishable by what????? 1 month paid leave and some online classes?
Yup: In 2016, the department rewrote its use of force policy with a focus on the “sanctity of life.” The new rules also required officers to intervene when a fellow cop became abusive.
This is like you seeing a bank robbery and you do nothing to stop it.... should you get charge with robing the bank because you stood there and did nothing? it seem thats what you think.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:26 pm to gthog61
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So this took 3 days?
What the frick was all the rioting for?
You think he is arrested if there were no protests?
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:26 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Intent to kill does not matter with respect to third degree you are correct. Intent was the wrong word to use on my part
They will have to show that kneeling on the guy was eminently dangerous, and that the officer knew that and disregarded that risk. Not saying that’s impossible, it’s just something that is tough to prove beyond reasonable doubt. All the officer has to say is that he didn’t realize his knee was closing off his airway and that his impression was that he was kneeling on Floyd’s back. Like I said, just leaves wiggle room for the defense to play with.
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causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life
They will have to show that kneeling on the guy was eminently dangerous, and that the officer knew that and disregarded that risk. Not saying that’s impossible, it’s just something that is tough to prove beyond reasonable doubt. All the officer has to say is that he didn’t realize his knee was closing off his airway and that his impression was that he was kneeling on Floyd’s back. Like I said, just leaves wiggle room for the defense to play with.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:27 pm to pwejr88
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If you’re witnessing a crime and don’t try to...
Its probably against police protocol to actively fight other cops who are applying unnecessary force during an arrest.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:27 pm to cajunangelle
quote:well that should be easy to get off of...... the prosecution will have to prove premeditation.
I just heard the cop will be charged with murder. Now we can move on.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:27 pm to tigerinDC09
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Fine people on both sides, huh
Nope
You are a racist. There are definitely bad people on both sides and you are one of them
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:28 pm to OMLandshark
Has anyone seen video between them taking him from the sidewalk to when they have him pinned down with a knee to the neck?
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