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Boeing to Offer Voluntary Buyouts to Entire Staff of 161,000

Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:26 am
Posted by CollegeFBRules
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:26 am
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Boeing Co. will offer voluntary buyouts to its entire staff of 161,000, in a bid to shed costs and adapt the massive manufacturer to a coronavirus crisis that could depress the aircraft market for years.


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Damn.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:27 am to
Better take the buyout.
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
25178 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:28 am to
Major corporations have really pissed me off throughout this whole experience. Instead of saving and investing in themselves they did huge stock buybacks to make their executives major money knowing if the shite hit the fan daddy government would bail them out
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57011 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:30 am to
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they did huge stock buybacks to make their executives major money
It's amazing how this stupidity took hold. Ever think they were going to try raise capital in the future?
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:36 am to
In that case, they should've just invested kept the $$$$ like retain earnings or invest in precious metals. Buying your own stock at all time highs and having to sell it in a bear market doesn't seem bright. Warren Buffet has written how destructive to shareholder wealth stock buybacks can be.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57011 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:43 am to
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In that case, they should've just invested kept the $$$$ like retain earnings or invest in precious metals.
so bury currency in a coffee can out back, or buy gold from Rossland financial?

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Warren Buffet has written how destructive to shareholder wealth stock buybacks can be.
A hammer *can* be a murder weapon. I still find it useful. Buybacks *can* also be a way to raise capital at a later time without taking on any debt. Perhaps you'd prefer companies raise capital by diluting the current stockholders?
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 10:45 am
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:44 am to
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Instead of saving and investing in themselves they did huge stock buybacks


How is buying back stock not investing in themselves?
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:49 am to
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Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67478 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:51 am to
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It’s all about short term returns, to hell with the long term health of their balance sheets.

This is the correct answer
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
2366 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:56 am to
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Better take the buyout.

^^
That's damn good advice. Learned that lesson a couple decades ago during the WorldCom collapse. Take the money and leave now, or leave with nothing later.
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3631 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:57 am to
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Major corporations have really pissed me off throughout this whole experience. Instead of saving and investing in themselves they did huge stock buybacks to make their executives major money knowing if the shite hit the fan daddy government would bail them out


This highlights yet another hypocrisy of the left. They hate these greedy corporations because they operate in riskier ways because of assumed government handouts/bailouts...but who is the one bailing them out? Oh yeah, the government.

Once again, complain about the one giant entity that they want more of. It makes no sense.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:07 am to
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They operate the way they do because of the way their executives IC plans are structured.

It’s all about short term returns, to hell with the long term health of their balance sheets.



Just like good sales people, good executives will do whatever their comp packages incent them to do.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81126 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:13 am to
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In that case, they should've just invested kept the $$$$ like retain earnings or invest in precious metals. Buying your own stock at all time highs and having to sell it in a bear market doesn't seem bright. Warren Buffet has written how destructive to shareholder wealth stock buybacks can be.


It's one of the problems with the insane pay structures of top executives. They need to remain popular so they can feast on their eye-popping salaries for as long as possible. Stock buybacks make all the right people very happy with them.
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:20 am to
I think you are CNN'ing the article.

Yes, they are making cuts.

Yes, they are communicating company issues to its 161K employees.

No, they are all not getting buyout offers, because they have only just begun laying off a very small % of their workers.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19306 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:37 am to
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Better take the buyout.



They're hurting in a lot of areas.

The economy/virus. The 737MAX mess. Their tanker overrun (where they basically got a contract handed to them via political connections). Who knows what else.
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:45 am to
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Better take the buyout.


Damn skippy....Boeing was done with the whole offering safety equipment as an upsell option thing but they are now well and truly screwed....
Posted by Kvothe
Member since Sep 2016
2018 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:48 am to
So, bad time to buy BA?
Posted by IronmanHTX
Home of the World Champs 'Stros
Member since Jun 2018
435 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:48 am to
Is Boeing collapsing?

I thought they were bailed out in the stimulus package? Whats going on?
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:49 am to
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They operate the way they do because of the way their executives IC plans are structured. It’s all about short term returns, to hell with the long term health of their balance sheets.


What have you done for me lately! This is why we are now a want fries with the economy....when share holder value became more important than long term strategy an executive would've been a fool...and their tenure short lived...to have not sold out and got in on the money grab. Blue collar unions have been preaching the ills of this since the '70s......
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:57 am to
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So, bad time to buy BA?


Probably aint hit rock bottom yet....when it does it will be a good time because they will have eliminated union contracts and with our system of crony capitalism and their political influence they will no doubt recover nicely...but shares ain't as low as they will be soon I'd bet......the days of Eastern Airlines are way behind us....
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