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Bloomberg and farmers...are farmers government leeches?

Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:06 pm
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6931 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:06 pm
So Bloomberg slights farmers.

Why shouldn't he?

Farmers take massive government handouts.

There are barely any salt of the earth family farms.

Farmers in America are massive globalists and multinational corporations.

So if we defend farmers do we defend government welfare for them?
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:07 pm to
Can you cite any of this information?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:08 pm to
quote:

There are barely any salt of the earth family farms.
Link?
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6931 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:11 pm to
LINK

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Agriculture is one of the most concentrated sectors of the US economy. As tens of thousands of independent family farmers have gone out of business in the last few decades, their land and operations have been bought up by ever-larger farms. Today there are 70 percent fewer hog farmers than in the mid-1990s, while just four companies control two-thirds of hog slaughter. Nearly 17,000 cattle ranchers have gone out of business each year since 1980; 85 percent of the beef market is now controlled by the top four meatpackers. Trends are similar across agriculture: the top four companies in each industry control 85 percent of the corn seed market, 90 percent of grain trading, and 63 percent of food retail. 
Posted by Worx
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:12 pm to
There are still family farmers out here. You are aware the SNAP budget comes from the USDA, correct??
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37472 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

Trends are similar across agriculture: the top four companies in each industry control 85 percent of the corn seed market, 90 percent of grain trading, and 63 percent of food retail. 


That says jack shite about who owns the actual farms that provide the grain

Idiot.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:15 pm to
When progs try too hard...
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 9:16 pm
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7573 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:17 pm to
Every time I go into a grocery store it is full of food.
Every. Single. Time.
Pick another hill.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28255 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

are farmers government leeches?


They aren't leeches in the traditional sense, but yeah.

quote:

There are barely any salt of the earth family farms.



Yes there are.

quote:

Farmers in America are massive globalists and multinational corporations.



Funny/sad/true. They make a ton of money from overseas market.

Everyone wants to spew the "American farmers feed the world!" line and for the most part, that's true. We produce a TON. That being said, they are subsidized with price flooring, lax insurance, and (more recently) tariffs.

They're still producing something but farmers don't have it near as tough as they'd like you to believe.
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 9:22 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:22 pm to
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There are still family farmers out here. You are aware the SNAP budget comes from the USDA, correct??
My county has hundreds of family farms and ranches. I am not aware of even one “corporate” farm or ranch.

Granted, some of the family operations have gotten smaller and some have gotten larger. My family ranches about 3x the acreage that my great-grandfather ranched, while many smaller operations are now part-time and run only a few head.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28255 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:25 pm to
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My county has hundreds of family farms and ranches. I am not aware of even one “corporate” farm or ranch.

Granted, some of the family operations have gotten smaller and some have gotten larger.


Yup. You generally see farming "groups" come in. In the statistical sense but it's really just a group of the 'salt of the earth' guys coming together and pooling resources.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21682 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:26 pm to
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Farmers take massive government handouts.


That’s just way too much detail and data for me to absorb.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36703 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:29 pm to
quote:

They're still producing something but farmers don't have it near as tough as they'd like you to believe


Not as tough as you think? Lol. Come try doing it and living in a farming family. Dumbass.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:30 pm to
Would you be willing to tell us what would happen if illegal farm labor disappeared?
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10962 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

Green Acres is the place to be.
Farm livin' is the life for me.
Land spreadin' out so far and wide
Keep Manhattan, just give me that countryside
...
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39387 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:33 pm to
So you are all good bashing farmers for being subsidized, but we can't ask welfare queens to get an ID card?

Yeah, GFY
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36703 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:35 pm to
Can’t tell you. My husband is a third generation farmer (has a BS and an MS) and makes an honest living. We’re not rich and we drive older vehicles. We put kids through college and the bills are paid.

He has two employees — American, hard working men.
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:35 pm to
Nothing would happen where I live cause there are no illegal farm workers

Are there loop holes that people take advantage of? Definitely but that’s the minority and farmers do a tone to stimulate the economy with their spending.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:36 pm to
Thank you.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28255 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:51 pm to
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Come try doing it and living in a farming family. Dumbass.




Deal with them quite a bit. It isn't easy work by any means but like I said, it isn't exactly slave labor.
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