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Posted on 5/15/25 at 5:59 am to 4cubbies
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But some of that ended 50 years ago so everyone should have rebounded from hundreds of years of systemic oppression by now.
The black community is worse off today than they were 50 years ago. That's 50 years of your white savior programs, trillions of dollars, and you've only managed to make things worse. How do you rationalize that?
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:08 am to 4cubbies
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Aetna and NY Life sold life insurance for slaves. If they profited off of slavery, then so did every merchant that sold supplies that were consumed or used by slaves.
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Are you arguing that slaves took out life insurance on their own lives? With what money? Do you think the payouts from these policies went to the families of slaves?
My God, you truly are dumbshit stupid.
He never said slaves took out life insurance on themselves. Anyone with half a brain knows if life insurance was sold on slave who bought it and why.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:00 am to 4cubbies
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Nah. You just are trying every cliched non-argument to dismiss ideas that you’re not familiar with.
Why do you keep saying that handing the minority community tons of money are “ideas that you’re not familiar with”? That has been happening for decades upon decades and the black population is getting worse and worse off each decade.
Your so called “ideas” are absolutely nothing new.
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A reasonable person would ask questions in that situation.
We do ask questions. A lot of questions. Can’t get them answered though. Why does the black community belittle themselves by calling each other N***a? Why are black students harassed and made fun of as “acting white” when they want to learn in school? Why does the black community slaughter each other over “dizrespeckt”? Why are there schools in Baltimore, MD that have half the students below a 0.50 GPA? Why is it forgivable as a country to have large swaths of cities looted and burned to ashes? Why is it ok for the black population to publicly threaten other races but not the opposite? If black lives matter… what’s all the shooting about?
Why is it perfectly ok to publicly attack Dr. Ben Carson but it’s racist to publicly attack Barack or Michelle Obama?
Why did the Mississippi government have to give hundreds of thousands to Jackson, MS, after Jackson MS got a previous large settlement over the water system from a public company, to turn their water back on when every other water system in the state is running fine?
See we ask questions. Valid questions. Just never get good answers.
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It doesn’t seem like you’re interested in understanding any argument that doesn’t align with what you’ve heard other people say ad nauseum.
Oh the raining of irony. You are the typical leftist white savior. “You know someone needs to do something about that!” You are the epitome of the Martha’s Vineyard mindset. It’s a great cause till you are faced with it… then you give em pittance and send them on their way. You keep babbling about your ideas and your concern while insulating yourself from it. It’s always someone else that needs to do something. We know you better than you know yourselves.
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Why do you keep trying to make this thread about BLM?
If you really need help understanding… I dunno.. you may need to call someone to help you. They may can walk you through it. Let me dumb it down for you the absolute best I can. If it doesn’t work.. ask for help with it.
BLM movement = giving the black community billions of dollars. Billions of dollars should have = community investment. Billions of dollars should have = black student loans paid, black scholarships, black community revitalization, etc. Billions of dollars instead of = fraud, lavish spending, waste, abuse. BLM now = bankrupt.
Reparations and “your ideas” = giving the black community billions (if not trillions) of dollars. Now you finish!
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:06 am to 4cubbies
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You are unhinged.
Uh oh, he pulled out that double barreled keyboard. The warrior is “strong” with this one…
This post was edited on 5/15/25 at 7:15 am
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:13 am to 4cubbies
We need more programs. More smart boards. More durable backpacks. Better breakfast in schools. We can do this.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:19 am to NIH
And again, 10 pages of attention for the most asinine takes ever.
This is beyond a parody at this point.
This is beyond a parody at this point.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:20 am to ibldprplgld
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He claimed these life insurance policies were “consumed or used by slave.”
What did he mean by that? Since you’re either knighting for him or… ??
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e never said slaves took out life insurance on themselves. Anyone with half a brain knows if life insurance was sold on slave who bought it and why.
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then so did every merchant that sold supplies that were consumed or used by slaves.
He claimed these life insurance policies were “consumed or used by slave.”
What did he mean by that? Since you’re either knighting for him or… ??
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:22 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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And again, 10 pages of attention for the most asinine takes ever.
Yet, people keep feeding it.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:41 am to EZE Tiger Fan
I don't understand people who think "Anyone who disagrees with what I've been told my whole life are clearly brain dead/not serious"
I thought you were smarter than disregarding everyone who thinks for themselves but I guess you can't since no one told you to do that yet.
I thought you were smarter than disregarding everyone who thinks for themselves but I guess you can't since no one told you to do that yet.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:42 am to TDTOM
and you've always been a grumpy troll, which is ironic since you're calling someone who presents a claim that you don't like a troll/attention whore.
Grow up. Not everyone thinks like you, thank God.
Grow up. Not everyone thinks like you, thank God.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:44 am to rocksteady
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Why do you think black people are incapable of lifting themselves up, if they want to?
Can you quote the post of mine with this argument? Because getting upvotes doesn't mean what you post is true. I never made this argument.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:45 am to Smeg
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It's difficult to accumulate wealth when you don't save because you live for the moment due to lack of impulse control and inability to delay gratification.
This is your own lazy thinking because you're so insecure that you have to believe you were born better than people with more melanin in their skin than you. No offense, but this is spoken like a typical mediocre white dude who needs to stroke his own ego by putting strangers down. And it's much easier to just buy into the government/media narrative than to actually think for yourself.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:46 am to 4cubbies
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The reality is that very few if any posters here have bothered to learn anything about the systemic oppression of the descendants of slaves by the federal government.
What are some examples of this systemic oppression today? 20 years ago? 50 years ago?
Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:54 am to High C
Hell, give 'em a one way ticket to South Africa! I hear there's lots of room since the white folks are leaving due to murderous racists that incite violence against them.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 9:13 am to 4cubbies
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And it's much easier to just buy into the government/media narrative than to actually think for yourself.
I’m sorry… you cannot be saying that the “government/media narrative” is that the US should leave the minority community to their own devices is it?
Oh and you missed a post to reply to.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 9:19 am to 4cubbies
4cubbies, ladies and gentlemen.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 9:32 am to Narax
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My ancestors were in Europe during slavery.
Why do you think I'm personally blaming you or your specific ancestors for slavery? My ancestors didn't participate in slavery either but we are all Americans and Americans did. When I say "we," I don't mean "Narax owned slaves."
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By 1920 it was black Americans who refused to keep their money and investments in non black banks.
What a gross over-simplification and intentionally dishonest statement. You are purposelly omitting critical context. These banks were undercapitalized and vulnerable to economic downturns and discriminatory policies, especially post-1929. You should read The Color of Money by Mehrsa Baradaran. If you have a book recommendation that informed your claims, I'll check it out.
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That's why they all kept losing their money till 1989 with FIRREA.
This is misleading and historically distorted.
The FIRREA was passed after more than 1,000 banks and thrifts failed due to deregulation, risky investments, and widespread fraud - aka MAGA's platform.
FIRREA was not aimed at black banks or communities. The S&L crisis in th 80s that prompted the FIRREA mostly affected white-owned savings banks and was caused by bad regulatory policy, not community-based banking decisions.
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They moved into the worst areas of northern cities.
During the Great Migration black Americans did not choose to move into poor areas. They were forced into racially segregated neighborhoods due to discriminatory housing covenants, violence from white residents and police, realtors’ steering and blockbusting, and denial of mortgages and loans in white areas.
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Those cities were going to get redlined.
Cities weren’t just going to get redlined. Redlining was a deliberate, federally sanctioned policy carried out by the Home Owners’ Loan Corporation and FHA, specifically targeting Black neighborhoods as high-risk, regardless of income. This blocked Black families from accessing the mortgage subsidies that built the white middle class after WWII.
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It's an urban legend that it was strictly a black problem.
Redlining did affect other groups, like immigrants, but Black Americans were the most systematically and consistently targeted, with explicit racial language used in housing policies.
European immigrants could “become white" and move into better housing. Blacks Americans could not.
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We fcked them over with bussing in spite of Kamalas recollections, something they asked for.
Many black families supported busing because their kids were being denied equal educational resources. The implementation was flawed, typically done without community input. To say “they asked for it” blames black communities for trying to escape inferior conditions created by white supremacy that you deny ever existed.
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But thats the rub, they asked for all these policies since 1960 that have done no good after trillions of investments.
This claim ignores the sabotage and underfunding of social programs, as well as the targeted dismantling of efforts like the War on Poverty, affirmative action, and school desegregation. It also erases the impact of ongoing discrimination in policing, education, employment, and healthcare (which you also deny the existence of). Many policies that were successful (e.g., Head Start, Medicaid, Civil Rights Act) did help, but structural inequality persisted because it was never fully dismantled.
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Money will not solve the issues of the black community.
Correct. Money didn't create these problems, the white men who have governed this country for centuries did.
quote:Who waved their wand to magically end this oppression? Redlining was legal until the Fair Housing Act of 1968 and enforcement is still spotty. School segregation is still rampant due to district boundaries and white flight. Mass incarceration policies disproportionately targeted Black communities starting in the 1970s and continue today. Check out this disparity in sentencing by race even on the federal level and then get on your high horse and sanctimoniously preach about the nonexistence of legal oppression.
You know that it's been 60 years since any legal oppression
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Justifying the sick obsession with victimhood pushes an infantile behavior on people.
Recognizing historical and ongoing oppression is not “victimhood,” it’s telling the truth. Just like your truth of no one taking you golfing or giving you a car when you were a teenager. Telling people to “just stop acting like victims” ignores real-world barriers and shifts blame to those harmed rather than those who built and maintain inequitable systems.
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It harms them like nothing else.
What actually harms Black communities:
Discriminatory housing
Underfunded schools
Mass incarceration
Police brutality
Employment discrimination
Healthcare disparities
Your ignorance or intentional dishonesty is more harmful than my pointing out historical facts.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 9:33 am to CleverUserName
No one is entitled to my attention.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 9:34 am to CleverUserName
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is that the US should leave the minority community to their own devices is it?
After centuries of intentionally harming these communities, we should just leave them alone now. Mission accomplished, right?
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