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re: Biden makes unvaxxed ex service members pay back signing bonuses
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:28 am to Homesick Tiger
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:28 am to Homesick Tiger
I’d tell them to frick off and not pay it
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:29 am to The Maj
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but recouping of bonuses when a service commitment is not fulfilled is pretty standard...
Then why did they need a bill if it’s pretty standard?
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:33 am to Homesick Tiger
Notice how this administration wants to be a hard arse vs certain groups of people, but totally look the other way for others. If i didnt know better, id think they were gaslighting to try to get reactions.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:46 am to wareaglepete
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Then why did they need a bill if it’s pretty standard?
Unless it was part of the Defense Authorization Act, then I have not been able to find a bill that did this... The article that was linked doesn't mention a bill that did this...
The practice is pretty much automatic when an obligation is not completed...
It is a crappy thing but I have seen bonuses recouped because of bad paperwork or someone not dotting an "i"...
Like I said, don't agree with them getting kicked out and really don't agree with them recouping the bonuses BUT it doesn't change the fact that a bonus requires the fulfilment of an obligation...
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:51 am to The Maj
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Unless it was part of the Defense Authorization Act, then I have not been able to find a bill that did this... The article that was linked doesn't mention a bill that did this...
Well you did't read it very close.
quote:
The push by the Pentagon to recoup signing bonuses from fired service members comes after President Biden signed the fiscal year 2023 National Defense Authorization Act,
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:55 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:
Well you did't read it very close.
Read it plenty close... why did you leave the rest off?
The push by the Pentagon to recoup signing bonuses from fired service members comes after President Biden signed the fiscal year 2023 National Defense Authorization Act, which included a provision, cleared by the House and the Senate, to repeal the administration's military vaccine mandate.
So, if the DFA stripped the soldiers of their bonus, then why didn't the article say that was what caused it?
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:56 am to The Maj
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I don't agree with kicking them out but recouping of bonuses when a service commitment is not fulfilled is pretty standard...
Right, but Uncle Sam changed the deal midstream by demanding that they take an unproven, untested "vaccine" that wasn't part of the original terms.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:58 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
Your son an officer? May I ask what category is the mos in? Mine got dropped before he went to artillery school, so he’s looking at going back but in a different area rn
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:58 am to The Maj
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I don't agree with kicking them out but recouping of bonuses when a service commitment is not fulfilled is pretty standard
This is a prime example of how someone proves that they are an idiotic moron without actually saying so.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:59 am to The Maj
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I don't agree with kicking them out but recouping of bonuses when a service commitment is not fulfilled is pretty standard...
Agreed. I started college on an Army ROTC scholarship and decided after one semester I didn't want to go that route anymore and had to pay that semester back.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:01 am to Areddishfish
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I started college on an Army ROTC scholarship and decided after one semester I didn't want to go that route anymore and had to pay that semester back.
But you knew ahead of time that would be the case.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:07 am to Homesick Tiger
Meanwhile, student loan payments are deferred and possibly “forgiven” in the near future.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:18 am to Homesick Tiger
It’s a shitty thing to do - but pretty sure following orders is part of the job description.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:21 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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My son’s MOS and job currently has a 6figure resigning bonus - all cash up front. I just read the paperwork on it over Christmas. No claw back provision.
Bonuses are always more trouble than they're worth.
The contract won't have the clawback provision. Those are in the DoDFMR and service specific financial management regulations.
The small print is always in some catalog of regulations you've never heard of.
Like Maj said, recouping bonuses is pretty standard practice. And while covid is anything but standard, the black and white of it is that these service members didn't technically fulfill their contracts so they have to pay the unearned portion of their bonuses back.
If they get reinstated with back pay, they'll get the money back. But until then, they're unfortunately on the hook. And that's the shittiest part of military finance. Uncle Sam will frick you to kingdom come before he admits he made a mistake. And after he admits he made a mistake, he's very slow to correct it and just offers a half-assed apology for wrecking your life in the process.
Though, if they do offer to reinstate members with backpay, those that elect not to come back that also took bonuses will absolutely have to pay those back. Best to prepare yourself for those stories because they will come.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 10:23 am
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:30 am to Homesick Tiger
And one day our military will be so soft because the soy boys these days would rather sit in their parents house and wonder why this country is so bad to live in. Although they sure as hell have no plans to leave the country because there is not another country that can equal the US in freedoms
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:55 am to Homesick Tiger
Signing bonuses = completely unforseen, gotta pay it back
Student loans = agreed to pay it back, don't gotta pay it back
What a disgrace.
Student loans = agreed to pay it back, don't gotta pay it back
What a disgrace.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 11:01 am to Homesick Tiger
sign on bonus's are the only thing separating us militarily from complete morons and mentally unstable tranny's at the helm.
would any blue haired lip pierced moron breast feeding his baby ferret---- prog filther... want to be in a fox hole with a transsexual with a hormone imbalance on her/his period literally fricking himself?
would any blue haired lip pierced moron breast feeding his baby ferret---- prog filther... want to be in a fox hole with a transsexual with a hormone imbalance on her/his period literally fricking himself?
Posted on 1/24/23 at 11:04 am to Homesick Tiger
He needs more funding to send to Ukraine. Wants to take it from our vets and send it to them.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 11:09 am to Homesick Tiger
And they wonder why enrollments are down.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 11:18 am to brass2mouth
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They get credit for the time they were in but have to give the rest back
But the choice was made to arbitrarily force them out. That should be on those who chose to be aggressors.
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