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Homesick Tiger
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Biden makes unvaxxed ex service members pay back signing bonuses

Reader's Digest version - Biden signed a bill that contained wording that makes any member who got a bonus for reupping now has to pay it back on a pro rated basis if they elected not to take the vaccine and in turn was kicked out of the military. That is beyond despicable imo. Talk about moving the goalposts. Guy reups, gets a bonus, covid comes along after the fact, a new rule emerges about being forced to take a shot, don't take it and your bonus is annulled and you have to repay it back.

What the hell is happening to this country?

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The push by the Pentagon to recoup signing bonuses from fired service members comes after President Biden signed the fiscal year 2023 National Defense Authorization Act, which included a provision, cleared by the House and the Senate, to repeal the administration's military vaccine mandate.


This is exactly what the Democrats think of our service people.

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The Maj
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Guy reups, gets a bonus,


Eh, the bonus was for an additional commitment...

I don't agree with kicking them out but recouping of bonuses when a service commitment is not fulfilled is pretty standard...


raceboy
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re: Biden makes unvaxxed ex service members pay back signing bonuses
10% back to the big guy. Come on, fat


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dcbl
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re: Biden makes unvaxxed ex service members pay back signing bonuses
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I don't agree with kicking them out but recouping of bonuses when a service commitment is not fulfilled is pretty standard...



they stood ready to honor the commitment = fulfilled their obligation



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Godfather1
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re: Biden makes unvaxxed ex service members pay back signing bonuses
They’re pissing off a lot of people who possess certain ‘ahem’ skills and training.


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canyon
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re: Biden makes unvaxxed ex service members pay back signing bonuses
yeah just like giving billons to shitstain corrupt leaders is standard...


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Joe_Dirte
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re: Biden makes unvaxxed ex service members pay back signing bonuses
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Eh, the bonus was for an additional commitment... I don't agree with kicking them out but recouping of bonuses when a service commitment is not fulfilled is pretty standard...


Nothing regarding Covid has been ‘pretty standard’.


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UncleFestersLegs
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re: Biden makes unvaxxed ex service members pay back signing bonuses
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don't agree with kicking them out but recouping of bonuses when a service commitment is not fulfilled is pretty standard...
none of this shite even remotely resembles "standard"


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Mid Iowa Tiger
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re: Biden makes unvaxxed ex service members pay back signing bonuses
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Eh, the bonus was for an additional commitment... I don't agree with kicking them out but recouping of bonuses when a service commitment is not fulfilled is pretty standard...


Bull shite it is. Of a guy gets a bonus for resigning and ends up off duty it isn’t clawed back. The only reason it is in this case is the why.

My son’s MOS and job currently has a 6figure resigning bonus - all cash up front. I just read the paperwork on it over Christmas. No claw back provision. This “law” is meant to be one more punishment for a group deemed “unclean” by the left.


Nosevens
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re: Biden makes unvaxxed ex service members pay back signing bonuses
Taking money from underpaid military is surely a smart move


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dafif
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re: Biden makes unvaxxed ex service members pay back signing bonuses
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t but recouping of bonuses when a service commitment is not fulfilled is pretty standard.


Legally doubtful

Ex post facto law to collect. This is why lawyers exist btw.. good ones anyway... to protect the people from the government

The govt kicked them out through no fault of their own. Personally, this should be an easy case to win.


brass2mouth
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re: Biden makes unvaxxed ex service members pay back signing bonuses
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Legally doubtful Ex post facto law to collect. This is why lawyers exist btw.. good ones anyway... to protect the people from the government The govt kicked them out through no fault of their own. Personally, this should be an easy case to win.


No, it was done when I was in and guys elected to get out early, were medically discharged, or were “kicked out”/discharged.

They get credit for the time they were in but have to give the rest back.


Dixie Normus
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re: Biden makes unvaxxed ex service members pay back signing bonuses
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I don't agree with kicking them out but recouping of bonuses when a service commitment is not fulfilled is pretty standard...


I’d agree with you except the government changed the terms of the deal after the fact. The government shouldn’t be able to unilaterally change the terms of the deal and then act like they’re not the ones breaking the original deal.


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Crimson Wraith
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re: Biden makes unvaxxed ex service members pay back signing bonuses
Zelensky needs that money.


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dafif
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No, it was done when I was in and guys elected to get out early, were medically discharged, or were “kicked out”/discharged.


Did it involve an illegal discharge? Remember there are court rulings already covering this.


lsu13lsu
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re: Biden makes unvaxxed ex service members pay back signing bonuses
This is how you get a military with only bootlickers who will ultimately turn on its own people if the State demands.


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brass2mouth
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re: Biden makes unvaxxed ex service members pay back signing bonuses
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Did it involve an illegal discharge? Remember there are court rulings already covering this.


There’s court ruling on military members being illegally discharged or are you referring to the private sector rulings?


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TheBoo
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re: Biden makes unvaxxed ex service members pay back signing bonuses
Isn't AggieHank a lawyer? Surely he'll chime in with his professional legal take on this right?


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PsychTiger
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re: Biden makes unvaxxed ex service members pay back signing bonuses
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I don't agree with kicking them out but recouping of bonuses when a service commitment is not fulfilled is pretty standard...


Taking money back from folks who served while simultaneously giving more and more money to people who have never worked a day in their lives is not a good look, and more people are starting to see it.


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Timeoday
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re: Biden makes unvaxxed ex service members pay back signing bonuses
Sue the Biden Administration under the Nuremberg Code.


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