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Best guess about Vegas Shooting

Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:43 am
Posted by DeltaDoc
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:43 am
What is your best guess as to what has happened in Vegas with the shooter, including motive, what the Feds really know and what Paddock really did/didn’t do?

Me: I honestly have no clue...but I’m leaning towards thinking he was a psychopath that was suicidal and decided to share his misery as he went out. There are a lot of unknowns but that’s my best guess.

What say you?
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20356 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:46 am to
Islamic terrorism
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139642 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:47 am to
quote:

but I’m leaning towards thinking he was a psychopath


He just hid it better than most....

...or did he?

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
47835 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:47 am to
Laundering money for ISIS. Then followed ISIS orders.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
16966 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:47 am to
quote:

What is your best guess as to what has happened in Vegas with the shooter, including motive, what the Feds really know and what Paddock really did/didn’t do?


Crazy elderly psychopath with nothing to lose and too much money to spend on guns.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:48 am to
the most simple explanation is usually the correct explanation

and in this case, he was probably just a cowardly pyschopath that was extremely angry and bitter towards the world and took his rage out on others
Posted by thetigerman
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Member since Sep 2006
3630 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:48 am to
quote:

Crazy elderly psychopath with nothing to lose and too much money to spend on guns.

Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:49 am to
I think that is the correct answer.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118527 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:49 am to
quote:

Laundering money for ISIS. Then followed ISIS orders.




This seems the most plausible explanation.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:51 am to
Another leftist who has been confirmed to be on psychotropic medications.


Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53753 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:52 am to
If evidence is weird, then there is something else to it...

What does CNN think happened? Are they even covering it anymore or are they too busy slamming Trump?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146349 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:53 am to
Since the news on what happened will never really come out. There is nothing left to do but speculate...

Logically there are four reasonings of motives.

1-political (Jason Aldean Trump supporters) like what happened to Scalise.

2-he was recruited by ISIS

3-he had no motive and was simply a loon

4-false flag so the democrats could call for gun confiscation
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35554 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:53 am to
there was a video circulating on facebook that a potential theory was that it was a sting gone wrong. he had set up the weapons in the hotel for a potential sale. possibly for ISIS members. the deal went bad, they shot him, took the weapons and used them on the people across the street. once they were done, the dipped out never to be seen again. it kind of explains the $100,000 transfer to his girlfriend at the time. would it have been a transaction he wanted to make sure she would keep?


eta: there was another video suggesting the gun being used was an M249 due to the rate of fire. an AR15 with a bump stock is slightly faster than an M249. LINK
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 10:56 am
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51788 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:55 am to
I'm going with some sort of CIA OP that became very pissed off very suddenly for some known reason.

He has access to vast sums of money without any solid explanation of how he acquired said money. I know the real estate thing was thrown around, but there has been ZERO evidence presented to real estate transactions, etc.

There's no way in hell is was pulling that kind of jack down from casinos. If he were he'd been on the list of every casino in the country to be watched.
Posted by Giant Leaf
On Leaf
Member since Nov 2015
4229 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:55 am to
Hillary Clinton offed Paddock in his room

Performed the shooting

Waltz out and immediately was on twitter calling the NRA racist
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
18935 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:55 am to
Perhaps he did it simply because he wanted to. What could be scarier than a guy killing a bunch of people simply because he felt like it? I think people want to believe in conspiracies or understand his motivation because there is some level of comfort it. If you're just talking about a guy who decided he wanted to kill people for the hell of it, that's a pretty chilling thought. No one wants to really believe that that kind of person is walking among us every day.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67476 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:55 am to
He believed in nothing.

His life was a hollow and vacant space that was a perfect home for a Satanic spirit to invade.

E V I L


The lesson:

Don't let yourselves become spiritually void.
Posted by juice4lsu
Member since Dec 2007
3695 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:57 am to
Best explanation I've see here: LINK

quote:

The level of premeditation is unusual and crystal clear from his mass buying of guns and the cautious systematic smuggling operation to ferry them to his room together with the illegal modifications and the position of the room he chose and occupied for several days beforehand.

This denotes a deeply serious commitment to his act. And one which leaves no doubt that act was conceived to generate the maximum possible publicity.

The question then is: 'publicity' for what exactly?

And the answer would appear to be 'nothing that can be identified'.

But consider the moral behind the following joke (I assure you it has a point beyond humour):

A known smuggler crosses the border every day at a particular crossing. Every day his suitcase is searched and nothing is found. After 20 years he crosses for a last time and confides to the policeman who has been searching him all that while that he is retiring. The policeman asks him 'Ok - since you're clean today and will never cross the border again tell me this - you've been smuggling - right?' The man says 'Right.'.The policeman says 'Smuggling what?' The man says 'Suitcases.'

Hold that 'hiding in plain sight' concept as we return to the shooting. This man amassed (rough figures) 24 guns in the hotel and another 19 at his home - 42 guns in total. He spent some $100,000 on buying them. The guns at his home are one thing but he also spent days filling his hotel room with more weapons and ammunition than he could ever conceivably use along with an array of advanced modifications and accessories.

Everything brand new. And very expensive. And mostly entirely redundant. Representing in effect an enormous waste of money and time and risk.

Except that is in the realm of generating massive publicity. Guaranteed massive publicity.

Yet despite having gone to enormous lengths to achieve that goal we are asked to believe this same man never troubled - never took the most elementary steps - to speak to that publicity. Indeed left behind no trace of anything that might demonstrate indicate or even hint at his motive or motives.

That would appear to make very little sense.

We would argue the opposite - that it makes absolute sense. Because this gentleman did not simply fail to leave behind a motive; He took substantial trouble to ensure that no motive could be found - or attributed to him. All of which can lead us to only one conclusion:

It has been said that 'the medium is the message'.
Posted by bobby_3_sticks
Member since Oct 2017
245 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:58 am to
lonely old guy that snapped.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30352 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:00 am to
quote:

here was a video circulating on facebook that a potential theory was that it was a sting gone wrong. he had set up the weapons in the hotel for a potential sale. possibly for ISIS members. the deal went bad, they shot him, took the weapons and used them on the people across the street. once they were done, the dipped out never to be seen again. it kind of explains the $100,000 transfer to his girlfriend at the time. would it have been a transaction he wanted to make sure she would keep?

Problem with this is that it doesn't explain Paddock researching other concerts. I think he was working with the gov', but that they had no idea he turned and this plan was the result.
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