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Before anyone claims victory, what are the specifics
Posted by DarthRebel on 1/22/18 at 12:10 pm034
It would be premature for either side to boast just yet.
Senate Rs may have gave Ds everything they wanted???
Senate Rs may have gave Ds everything they wanted???
re: Before anyone claims victory, what are the specificsPosted by BlackHelicopterPilot on 1/22/18 at 12:11 pm to DarthRebel
re: Before anyone claims victory, what are the specificsPosted by HottyToddy7 on 1/22/18 at 12:12 pm to DarthRebel
What could the senate D's get that would pass the house and Trump would sign?
re: Before anyone claims victory, what are the specificsPosted by BigEdLSU on 1/22/18 at 12:12 pm to DarthRebel
Trump won't sign a bad deal
re: Before anyone claims victory, what are the specificsPosted by Rebel on 1/22/18 at 12:13 pm to DarthRebel
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Senate Rs may have gave Ds everything they wanted???
Nothing in the bill about DACA.
re: Before anyone claims victory, what are the specificsPosted by loogaroo on 1/22/18 at 12:13 pm to DarthRebel
re: Before anyone claims victory, what are the specificsPosted by Jjdoc on 1/22/18 at 12:13 pm to DarthRebel
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It would be premature for either side to boast just yet. Senate Rs may have gave Ds everything they wanted???
It was the same thing they had on the table prior to the shut down sir.
re: Before anyone claims victory, what are the specificsPosted by TigerBait1971 on 1/22/18 at 12:13 pm to DarthRebel
Only 1 scoop of ice cream.
Trump caved.
Trump caved.
re: Before anyone claims victory, what are the specificsPosted by scrooster on 1/22/18 at 12:14 pm to DarthRebel
This is just a temporary fix ... a lot of negotiating to be done between now and March, particularly in the next 17 days.
What this has done is give Trump and Company a lot more leeway and ammo at the negotiating table.
Trump is not going to budge on not giving them DACA the way they want it. He's going to insist DACA kids have to apply and go through the process, the same process as everyone else, to obtain citizenship.
The bottom line is this should lead to delaying their legal voting status by at least 10-15 years ... which is a major major victory.
What this has done is give Trump and Company a lot more leeway and ammo at the negotiating table.
Trump is not going to budge on not giving them DACA the way they want it. He's going to insist DACA kids have to apply and go through the process, the same process as everyone else, to obtain citizenship.
The bottom line is this should lead to delaying their legal voting status by at least 10-15 years ... which is a major major victory.
re: Before anyone claims victory, what are the specificsPosted by FooManChoo on 1/22/18 at 12:14 pm to DarthRebel
At this point, what does it matter? The Democrat party is about to become irrelevant.
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re: Before anyone claims victory, what are the specificsPosted by demtigers73 on 1/22/18 at 12:14 pm to DarthRebel
Melt!
re: Before anyone claims victory, what are the specificsPosted by TaderSalad on 1/22/18 at 12:15 pm to DarthRebel
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DarthRebel
Come on, come celebrate
re: Before anyone claims victory, what are the specificsPosted by DarthRebel on 1/22/18 at 12:15 pm to Rebel
I do not trust the Repubs. So I am taking the Megs approach to this and wait before celebrating.
If it is legit win for Trump, I am happy. I just have no faith in Senate Republicans.
If it is legit win for Trump, I am happy. I just have no faith in Senate Republicans.
re: Before anyone claims victory, what are the specificsPosted by The Spleen on 1/22/18 at 12:17 pm to DarthRebel
They're passing the proposed CR for 3 weeks in exchange for bringing the Graham-Durbin Immigration reform proposal to the floor for debate/vote.
My guess as to what happens is this. The Senate passes the immigration reform bill, the House passes their own version. The two bills are very far apart. Both houses refuse to take up the other's bill, and we're right back where we were in 3 weeks.
My guess as to what happens is this. The Senate passes the immigration reform bill, the House passes their own version. The two bills are very far apart. Both houses refuse to take up the other's bill, and we're right back where we were in 3 weeks.
re: Before anyone claims victory, what are the specificsPosted by therick711 on 1/22/18 at 12:18 pm to DarthRebel
The deal is that the sides will continue to negotiate on spending and immigration. Literally the same thing they were doing before the Schumer Shutdown. Big win for them.
re: Before anyone claims victory, what are the specificsPosted by loogaroo on 1/22/18 at 12:18 pm to DarthRebel
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I just have no faith in Senate Republicans.
They can frick up a wet dream, but it feels like things are changing.
re: Before anyone claims victory, what are the specificsPosted by LSU Patrick on 1/22/18 at 12:18 pm to DarthRebel
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what are the specifics
re: Before anyone claims victory, what are the specificsPosted by Wtodd on 1/22/18 at 12:19 pm to The Spleen
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the Graham-Durbin Immigration reform proposal
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reform proposal
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reform
You misspelled amnesty
re: Before anyone claims victory, what are the specificsPosted by DarthRebel on 1/22/18 at 12:19 pm to The Spleen
quote:
They're passing the proposed CR for 3 weeks in exchange for bringing the Graham-Durbin Immigration reform proposal to the floor for debate/vote.
My guess as to what happens is this. The Senate passes the immigration reform bill, the House passes their own version. The two bills are very far apart. Both houses refuse to take up the other's bill, and we're right back where we were in 3 weeks.
Yup. Everyone thinking we won the game, does not realize there is still 1 minute left on the clock and we are only up by 1.
re: Before anyone claims victory, what are the specificsPosted by Yak on 1/22/18 at 12:21 pm to The Spleen
quote:Yep.
My guess as to what happens is this. The Senate passes the immigration reform bill, the House passes their own version. The two bills are very far apart. Both houses refuse to take up the other's bill, and we're right back where we were in 3 weeks.
I see another shutdown in 3 weeks.
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