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Based on My "Never Trump" Contacts, I'd Say Dems & the MSM Are Losing the PR War "Bigly"
Posted on 3/28/20 at 11:20 am
Posted on 3/28/20 at 11:20 am
Here's what I'm hearing from most of the people I know who are anywhere from "meh" on President Trump all the way to "I hate that orange bastard with a passion":
1) Most of them LOVE the job that Trump/Pence and Co. are doing regarding the battle against CV-19, and they appreciate it.
2) Most of them seem to view CV-19, rightly or not, as the "9/11" of the current day. In other words, this is bigger than politics. Take your political opportunism and shove it.
To the extent this is true, any blowback against Trump's efforts on CV-19 seem to be seen as nothing but political opportunism and is not appreciated at this time for this event. Even one of our own resident liberals, TOKEN, started a thread last night regarding Trump's tweet where he called the Governor of Michigan "Half-Whitmer." Under normal circumstances TOKEN probably aligns himself with the Governor of Michigan 19 times out of 20 against Trump.
Also, when Nancy Pelosi initially tried to hijack the stimulus plan, the blowback she received made her adjust her course (some will say she still screwed it up, and there's definitely some crap in it). But nevertheless, she got the message. I'm telling you, Dems and the corporate media are playing with fire here.
Anybody else seeing this attitude from at least some of your left-leaning friends, relatives, and acquaintances?
1) Most of them LOVE the job that Trump/Pence and Co. are doing regarding the battle against CV-19, and they appreciate it.
2) Most of them seem to view CV-19, rightly or not, as the "9/11" of the current day. In other words, this is bigger than politics. Take your political opportunism and shove it.
To the extent this is true, any blowback against Trump's efforts on CV-19 seem to be seen as nothing but political opportunism and is not appreciated at this time for this event. Even one of our own resident liberals, TOKEN, started a thread last night regarding Trump's tweet where he called the Governor of Michigan "Half-Whitmer." Under normal circumstances TOKEN probably aligns himself with the Governor of Michigan 19 times out of 20 against Trump.
Also, when Nancy Pelosi initially tried to hijack the stimulus plan, the blowback she received made her adjust her course (some will say she still screwed it up, and there's definitely some crap in it). But nevertheless, she got the message. I'm telling you, Dems and the corporate media are playing with fire here.
Anybody else seeing this attitude from at least some of your left-leaning friends, relatives, and acquaintances?
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Posted on 3/28/20 at 11:23 am to KCT
That's why Maddow sent out the Batsignal for the MSM to stop covering the daily briefings.
That's how you know - for a fact - that he is winning the PR battle on this.
All the Dem +9/+11/+13 polls showing Biden is winning at the same level HRC was winning 4 years ago can't change that.
And that is in the middle of the fight - imagine when he wins it earlier than expected.
That's how you know - for a fact - that he is winning the PR battle on this.
All the Dem +9/+11/+13 polls showing Biden is winning at the same level HRC was winning 4 years ago can't change that.
And that is in the middle of the fight - imagine when he wins it earlier than expected.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 11:26 am to Ace Midnight
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And that is in the middle of the fight - imagine when he wins it earlier than expected.
This is when even some of the sheep will turn to the media and say, "What the hell, Tapper?"
They're digging their own grave.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 11:27 am to KCT
KCT - Being former Filth and having contacts with Filth now who hate Trump with a passion, I am seeing the same thing....
HOWEVER....
If you don't think these people will pull the lever for the brain dead retard in November anyway, you are kidding yourself.
HOWEVER....
If you don't think these people will pull the lever for the brain dead retard in November anyway, you are kidding yourself.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 11:27 am to KCT
I don’t think anything has changed. If you liked or disliked Trump before the virus, you probably feel the same way now and will continue to feel the same afterwards. I don’t think it has moved the needle one way or the other.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 11:30 am to TigerProwl24
There really can't be much middle ground left. How anyone could be undecided between Trump and Biden is a complete mystery to me. There won't be much, if any movement between one camp and the other between now and November either.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 11:33 am to KCT
The tech anti-trumpers in my twitter feed are kinda running out of material to hate on. They. Are. Tortured. 
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 11:34 am
Posted on 3/28/20 at 11:38 am to KCT
quote:Sensible people realize that there will be no perfect response and that there will be times where big breakdowns occur. That cannot be avoided in a country of 330,000,000 people with a new, minimally studied virus.
1) Most of them LOVE the job that Trump/Pence and Co. are doing regarding the battle against CV-19, and they appreciate it.
This is also why I can't fault JBE or the democrat mayor of New Orleans for how they've responded.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 11:39 am to KCT
While Trump did initially bungle the government’s response to the virus and is partly to blame for its fast spread across the country, he has certainly put a great effort in informing the public of what’s going on and attempting to be non-partisan as much as Trump can be non-partisan. I don’t love the job they are doing in Washington, but who’s to say I’d like what any President was doing. If Trump was panicky, this would be a lot worse.
Also, the only despicable person in all of this is Nancy Pelosi, already my least favorite politician. She’s being county as usual with her blockage of the stimulus plan.
Also, the only despicable person in all of this is Nancy Pelosi, already my least favorite politician. She’s being county as usual with her blockage of the stimulus plan.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 11:40 am to Froman
quote:Politely, this is bullshite. He shut down travel to china long before any democrat wanted to. He limited the impact significantly with that action.
While Trump did initially bungle the government’s response to the virus and is partly to blame for its fast spread across the country
Posted on 3/28/20 at 11:41 am to Jake88
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the democrat mayor of New Orleans
Said Trump should have cancelled Mardi Gras.
The folks would have been better to leave the chair vacant or even voted for the slightly more competent (however corrupt) Charbonay lady over this, *ahem* public servant.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 11:41 am to KCT
quote:
2) Most of them seem to view CV-19, rightly or not, as the "9/11" of the current day. In other words, this is bigger than politics. Take your political opportunism and shove it.
That is the correct approach to take
In a worst case scenario this would certainly have a bigger impact on our lives than 9/11 IMO
quote:
Anybody else seeing this attitude from at least some of your left-leaning friends, relatives, and acquaintances?
Not really. But if this CV-19 situation turns out much better than they're predicting they're the types that would acknowledge that we did a good job.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 11:41 am to Froman
quote:
While Trump did initially bungle the government’s response to the virus and is partly to blame for its fast spread across the country
You are #FakeNews.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 11:43 am to Ace Midnight
quote:Shes going to shift blame, but her actions in cancelling St. Patrick's and other things were a good call in the face of resistance.
Said Trump should have cancelled Mardi Gras.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 11:44 am to Jake88
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her actions in cancelling St. Patrick's and other things were a good call in the face of resistance.
Fair enough, but this is the easiest call since BHO said, "Yeah, go ahead and kill Bin Laden."
Posted on 3/28/20 at 11:45 am to Ace Midnight
quote:I'm not sure it was that easy. People were bitching.
Fair enough, but this is the easiest call since...
Posted on 3/28/20 at 11:46 am to KCT
I will chime in as a moderate, slightly left person.
I think the politicization of this is gross. People should be able to come together and work together in a crisis. Personal feelings about the other side be damned. And my sentiment on this goes both ways, Republicans who constantly berate the other side in times like this are just as bad.
I most likely won't be voting Trump in November, but Dems still have to earn my vote. That definitely hasn't happened yet.
I think the politicization of this is gross. People should be able to come together and work together in a crisis. Personal feelings about the other side be damned. And my sentiment on this goes both ways, Republicans who constantly berate the other side in times like this are just as bad.
I most likely won't be voting Trump in November, but Dems still have to earn my vote. That definitely hasn't happened yet.
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 11:48 am
Posted on 3/28/20 at 11:46 am to KCT
None of those people are being honest to your face. They are all avoiding a potentially ugly confrontation.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 11:49 am to KCT
I think you are mostly right. But, my bro and sister in law are physicians and still criticizing him for the testing situation. I haven't been following things closely on that front, so I don't know what to think.
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 3/28/20 at 11:52 am to Bulldogblitz
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None of those people are being honest to your face. They are all avoiding a potentially ugly confrontation.
Also a possibility
I'm always leery when someone brings up some conversation they had a conversation of someone with the opposite political persuasion IRL and they think it's some sign of national sentiments changing
Nah...they were probably just not trying to be an argumentative a-hole and you were an annoying dick for bringing up politics IRL in the first damn place
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