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re: Axios: Trump will offer buyouts to all federal workers

Posted on 1/28/25 at 5:27 pm to
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 1/28/25 at 5:27 pm to
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It looks like no buyout. According to Reddit, Elon just sent Fed workers a "Fork in the Road" email like he did with Twitter employees. No buyout. If you reply to the email with "Resign" you won't have to return to the office but will have to work through September 30 which will be your resignation date. Wild! But I think they gonna get sued.


Who allowed these fricking federal government workers to be such a protected lot? Most private sector employees get tapped on the shoulder and walked out.
Posted by bader
Member since Nov 2024
270 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 5:27 pm to
From Reddit:


The media is going to go nuts over this. According to Reddit, Elon is sending it directly to employees, bypassing HR and the employee's supervisor. And there is no actual buyout, just the ability to continue to work from home until September 30 and not be subject to the RTO order.
This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 5:31 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98340 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 5:28 pm to
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He sure didn’t last long on DOGE


Well yeah hes going to be Gov of OH

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Nice melt.


Calling out you racists isnt melting
Posted by The Cow Goes Moo Moo
Bucktown
Member since Nov 2012
4328 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 5:30 pm to
If someone accepts this, would they not be eligible for federal employment ever again? Asking for a friend.
Posted by bader
Member since Nov 2024
270 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 5:33 pm to
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If someone accepts this, would they not be eligible for federal employment ever again? Asking for a friend.

No idea but according to Reddit they aren't offering any money, just the ability to continue working from home until your resignation date. Sounds like a shitty deal.

I doubt they get many takers. They are going to need to do a proper buyout with $$$.
This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 5:34 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139132 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 5:34 pm to
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Learn to Code
Yep.



Posted by The Cow Goes Moo Moo
Bucktown
Member since Nov 2012
4328 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 5:34 pm to
Well that’s no good. I work in the office full time already.
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2871 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 5:34 pm to
I guess the savings assume that the positions will not be filled once vacated...
Posted by LaMigra
Member since Nov 2022
2774 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 5:36 pm to
You’re clueless I see!

You can not even begin to compare a government worker to the private sector, period!

End of argument
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75257 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 5:36 pm to
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Who allowed these fricking federal government workers to be such a protected lot? Most private sector employees get tapped on the shoulder and walked out.

You believe buyouts and severance are uncommon things in the private sector? You haven't been around long, have you?
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31705 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 5:37 pm to
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Should RIF them.


State govts RIF employees because of budget cuts. I wonder why the federal govt never has to...
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20515 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 5:41 pm to
Nice promise, but buyouts don't work like he says they do.

They can be offered at any time, but the amount an employee will get (by law) is the lesser of $25K ($40K for DoD) or how much they would have gotten had they been subject to RIF.

Also, the article says they can simply accept by saying "resign". But that comes with a permanent cost: an employee does not take health or life insurance benefits. They have to retire on an immediate annuity to be able to take those into retirement.

(In my case I would not be eligible as my position involves "national security".)
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20515 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 5:44 pm to
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If they are forced to provide office space for all of these people, it will end up costing us more money.


As I've mentioned before, we have no space to house everyone who has my office as their "official duty station". Even if you did reduce headcount by any of these plans, I doubt you would reduce it enough to solve the space problem.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20077 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 5:46 pm to
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I think you mean it doesn't match your narrative

No. It was a Senate report they used to support their narrative. We all know they manipulate information.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55795 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 5:47 pm to
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quote:Who allowed these fricking federal government workers to be such a protected lot? Most private sector employees get tapped on the shoulder and walked out.

You believe buyouts and severance are uncommon things in the private sector? You haven't been around long, have you?


66 years old, most medium to small businesses, which employ the bulk of US workers do not provide severance payments to hourly workers, you must be one of those Union or salaried types.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20515 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 5:50 pm to
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According to Reddit, Elon is sending it directly to employees, bypassing HR and the employee's supervisor.


Reddit is not correct, that is an official OPM email account.

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And there is no actual buyout, just the ability to continue to work from home until September 30 and not be subject to the RTO order.


Those who planned to retire on or before that date may take the deal. They would only have to come in on their final day to turn in their equipment, govt credit card (if they have one), any badge, and leave.

The only catch is, if they say "resign", and then file retirement paperwork, OPM may say "you resigned" and then deny them FEHB/FEGLI benefits which you can take into retirement but not into resignation.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20515 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 5:51 pm to
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f someone accepts this, would they not be eligible for federal employment ever again? Asking for a friend.


If they resigned, they could in most cases reapply (though if they were a poor employee, there are ways to keep the person from coming back).

Retirement is another story; it's harder to return as a retired annuitant.
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
3118 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:18 pm to
LINK

Posted on the official OPM website. This is the transparency we were promised.

quote:

Fork in the Road
Below is the email that was sent to federal employees on January 28, 2025 presenting a deferred resignation offer. If you did not respond to that email and wish to accept the deferred resignation offer, you may do so by following these steps.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20515 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:51 pm to
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I also understand that if I am (or become) eligible for early or normal retirement before my resignation date, that I retain the right to elect early or normal retirement (once eligible) at any point prior to my resignation date.


So, here's what will likely happen: employees who already planned to retire on or before 9/30 will take the offer to stay at home (subject to any prior directive, such as having to come in one day a week), then when they get close to their planned leave date, change from resigning to retiring (in order to keep health and life insurance benefits into retirement), and report into the office on the last day to turn in equipment, credit card, badge, etc.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
13268 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:17 pm to
Nonsense. Elon doesn't have the ability to just utilize a HR account from OPM if he isn't a government employee in OPM.
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