Australia with like 100 total cv19 deaths just reported a Q2 gdp decline of 8%.

Taiwan has 7 deaths and flat GDP.

quote:

---

Australia with like 100 total cv19 deaths just reported a Q2 gdp decline of 8%.
Which is almost IDENTICAL to our Q2 gdp decline


Dems can argue till they are blue in the face, but there is very little evidence that America’s economic contraction in Q2 was something that could have been avoided.

Furthermore, we are now recovering a lot faster than Europe and SK

---

I'm not sure this is responsive to the most common critique. Consider if you describe the same situation thusly, The US'pandemic non-plan has led outcomes 20 times worse in terms of per capita deaths and has gained no relative GDP benefit for the trouble as compared to Australia.

quote:

---

Taiwan also had something no other first world nation had: a population with memory immunity from previous exposure to SARS.

---

Seems like a argument that our plan should have been to very closely emulate the Taiwanese.

quote:

---

Right - and actually, a little worse GDP performance for the US, in fact.

---

Where are you seeing this?

Germany not only is recovering a lot more slowly than we are right now, but their Q2 gdp declined by more than ours, as did the UK's and France's.

WSJ: U.S. Economic Recovery Gains Steam While Others Stutter


There's a reason trump's ratings on the economy have been pretty durable even through covid. Most honest people know that people care more about their lives than their economic livliehood, so they were willing to take a hit to protect people.

quote:

---

longwayfromLA

---

BTW, france and the spain are now seeing more per capita daily new cases than we are.

I thought you guys said these countries "showed us how its done"?

LINK

We were talking about Australia, right? I'm seeing -7% for Australia and we had about -8.2%.

Regards Europe, maybe the public ends up happy with how we're dealing with this, but go read the European polling vs. ours on how we're handling this. Our approach is relatively unpopular.

quote:

---

BTW, france and the spain are now seeing more per capita daily new cases than we are.

I thought you guys said these countries "showed us how its done"?

---

I haven't checked in on this in a while. Let's see if this is actually true or just BS.

Source

Using a 7 day rolling from 8/27-9/2
France - 84 case/M; 0.3 deaths/M
Spain - 95 cases/M; 0.67 deaths/M
US - 128 cases/M; 2.7 deaths/M

So we're still generating 30-50% more cases per capita and 5 to 9 times as many deaths per capita. So BS then. Anyhow a better description of my stance is we've shown others countries precisely what not to do.

quote:

---

I think sweden's approach will end up being regarded as the finest display of public health leadership in the history of the world.

---

More than Taiwan? More than New Zealand? More than their neighbors Norway, Finland & Denmark which has seen much, much, much better outcomes and a less steep economic downturn? Not a lot of reason for that, at present.

quote:

---

This is the seven day avg, so the gap b/w france and america is likely gone at this point.

---

I retract. Not BS. Though we seem to have a fairly material source conflict. But this is legit.