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As Germany, France, Spain, NZ Reenter Full Lockdown,WaPo Criticizes Italy For Not Doing So
Posted by LuckyTiger on 10/28/20 at 4:04 pm72
C’mon man! You gotta listen to the science!
WaPo
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Italy, resisting another coronavirus lockdown, shows peril of piecemeal restrictions
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The team of city police officers had been assigned to look for coronavirus rule-breakers, so one evening last week, they parked their cars in the middle of one of Rome's liveliest neighborhoods and walked from one restaurant to the next. In 90 minutes on patrol, they didn’t find a single violator. What they found, instead, was nightlife that conformed to the rules but nonetheless posed risks for spreading the novel coronavirus...The country had banned dining in groups of seven or more, but there were plenty of tables of four, five and six under mood lighting on the cobblestone streets.
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At the beginning of the pandemic, Italy was a lockdown pioneer — the first among democracies to control the virus by ordering life to a standstill. But as a second wave of the virus explodes, Italy and other countries across Europe have been reluctant...and so they are now demonstrating the perils of an alternate strategy.
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experts say it’s hard to know which combination of targeted measures will be sufficient. Given the incubation period of the virus and the lag time between the onset of symptoms and when somebody might get tested, it can take 15 to 20 days to get a sense of whether restrictions are helping. By that time, the virus may have raced further out of control, with serious consequences for the health system.
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Walter Ricciardi, the World Health Organization adviser to the Health Ministry, said in a TV interview that the latest measures are “not enough” and that Italy would need restrictions in proportion with the “uncontrolled” spread in some parts of the country.
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More covid-19 patients are in Italian intensive care units than on the day in March when Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte called for the initial lockdown.
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Many workers have returned to their offices. Even as Conte was announcing the latest measures Sunday afternoon, outdoor tables were packed with people sharing late lunches and early cocktails. Fabrizio Pregliasco, a virologist at the University of Milan, said even that kind of permitted socializing was enabling the virus to spread. “Once you lower the mask to grab a bite, you’re doing something risky,” he said
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Industry associations have been lobbying the government not to clamp down too hard, and an attempt to reintroduce first-wave restrictions in the southern region of Campania illustrated the political risks of going too far. On Friday, the regional governor, Vincenzo De Luca, had called for a lockdown, saying his area was on the “verge of tragedy.” But after a night of violent protests in Naples, he appeared to back away from his pledge.
WaPo
re: As Germany, France, Spain, NZ Reenter Full Lockdown,WaPo Criticizes Italy For Not Doing SoPosted by oliveandblue on 10/28/20 at 4:06 pm to LuckyTiger
Italy can't take another economic beating unless people die at high rates. They HAVE to eat shite for the next year.
re: As Germany, France, Spain, NZ Reenter Full Lockdown,WaPo Criticizes Italy For Not Doing SoPosted by Big Scrub TX on 10/28/20 at 4:06 pm to LuckyTiger
To be fair, France is keeping schools open in their lockdown.
re: As Germany, France, Spain, NZ Reenter Full Lockdown,WaPo Criticizes Italy For Not Doing SoPosted by Privateer 2007 on 10/28/20 at 4:08 pm to LuckyTiger
This started with a single Chinese person.
You cannot run from this.
People need to have an immune response via infection or vaccine.
Just let it ride.
You cannot run from this.
People need to have an immune response via infection or vaccine.
Just let it ride.
re: As Germany, France, Spain, NZ Reenter Full Lockdown,WaPo Criticizes Italy For Not Doing SoPosted by BozemanTiger on 10/28/20 at 4:08 pm to LuckyTiger
Fresh out of fricks over here.
re: As Germany, France, Spain, NZ Reenter Full Lockdown,WaPo Criticizes Italy For Not Doing SoPosted by High C on 10/28/20 at 4:09 pm to LuckyTiger
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the novel coronavirus
Is it really novel still?
re: As Germany, France, Spain, NZ Reenter Full Lockdown,WaPo Criticizes Italy For Not Doing SoPosted by narddogg81 on 10/28/20 at 4:09 pm to LuckyTiger
because it worked so well the first time. these people are fricking morons
re: As Germany, France, Spain, NZ Reenter Full Lockdown,WaPo Criticizes Italy For Not Doing SoPosted by LuckyTiger on 10/28/20 at 4:10 pm to Big Scrub TX
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To be fair, France is keeping schools open in their lockdown.
True, we aren’t doing that here in some systems. But still it’s massively damaging for the economy and populace:
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Under the new French measures which come into force on Friday, people will be required to stay in their homes except to buy essential goods, seek medical attention, or exercise for up to one hour a day. They will be permitted to go to work if their employer deems it impossible for them to do the job from home. Schools will stay open. As in the darkest days of spring, anyone leaving their home in France will now have to carry a document justifying being outside, which can be checked by police.
From Reuters.
re: As Germany, France, Spain, NZ Reenter Full Lockdown,WaPo Criticizes Italy For Not Doing SoPosted by teke184 on 10/28/20 at 4:11 pm to oliveandblue
Ireland, Italy, and Spain are getting the shite knocked out of them economically and with Covid.
How are Portugal and Greece faring out of the PIIGS?
How are Portugal and Greece faring out of the PIIGS?
re: As Germany, France, Spain, NZ Reenter Full Lockdown,WaPo Criticizes Italy For Not Doing SoPosted by LuckyTiger on 10/28/20 at 4:12 pm to narddogg81
Everyone notice how they did not use the term “mostly peaceful protests” or “peaceful protests that intensified”?
Hell no. These protests against the lockdown were fricking “violent.”
Hell no. These protests against the lockdown were fricking “violent.”
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re: As Germany, France, Spain, NZ Reenter Full Lockdown,WaPo Criticizes Italy For Not Doing SoPosted by teke184 on 10/28/20 at 4:13 pm to LuckyTiger
Did they invite the Germans back to ask everyone for their papers?
re: As Germany, France, Spain, NZ Reenter Full Lockdown,WaPo Criticizes Italy For Not Doing SoPosted by LuckyTiger on 10/28/20 at 4:14 pm to teke184
Oh boy lol
re: As Germany, France, Spain, NZ Reenter Full Lockdown,WaPo Criticizes Italy For Not Doing SoPosted by jcaz on 10/28/20 at 4:15 pm to LuckyTiger
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Once you lower the mask to grab a bite, you’re doing something risky
Oh but masks work they said!
What a joke. As if a moment of moving a mask is causing the spikes. It's just nature at work. Viruses spread through the population.
re: As Germany, France, Spain, NZ Reenter Full Lockdown,WaPo Criticizes Italy For Not Doing SoPosted by LSUnatick on 10/28/20 at 4:16 pm to LuckyTiger
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experts say it’s hard to know which combination of targeted measures will be sufficient
Science and shite
re: As Germany, France, Spain, NZ Reenter Full Lockdown,WaPo Criticizes Italy For Not Doing SoPosted by AbuTheMonkey on 10/28/20 at 4:17 pm to Big Scrub TX
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To be fair, France is keeping schools open in their lockdown.
So is Germany
re: As Germany, France, Spain, NZ Reenter Full Lockdown,WaPo Criticizes Italy For Not Doing SoPosted by Lima Whiskey on 10/28/20 at 4:18 pm to LuckyTiger
They have checkpoints on the major roads to police it.
If you live in the country you can actually live a fairly normal life, most people don’t leave their bubble around their town or village very often.
For people in the city it’s a true lockdown and very unhappy.
If you live in the country you can actually live a fairly normal life, most people don’t leave their bubble around their town or village very often.
For people in the city it’s a true lockdown and very unhappy.
re: As Germany, France, Spain, NZ Reenter Full Lockdown,WaPo Criticizes Italy For Not Doing SoPosted by corneredbeast on 10/28/20 at 4:19 pm to jcaz
Viruses gon virus
re: As Germany, France, Spain, NZ Reenter Full Lockdown,WaPo Criticizes Italy For Not Doing SoPosted by GeauxtigersMs36 on 10/28/20 at 4:25 pm to LuckyTiger
Don’t sound like freedom. Who’s the dictator?
re: As Germany, France, Spain, NZ Reenter Full Lockdown,WaPo Criticizes Italy For Not Doing SoPosted by teke184 on 10/28/20 at 4:25 pm to Lima Whiskey
In my experience, frick em.
Parisians treat their own countrymen like shite and think anyone not from Paris is a provincial hick even if they are from a city.
It is on par with someone from Manhattan thinking someone from Staten Island is an inbred horsefricker from West Virginia.
Parisians treat their own countrymen like shite and think anyone not from Paris is a provincial hick even if they are from a city.
It is on par with someone from Manhattan thinking someone from Staten Island is an inbred horsefricker from West Virginia.
re: As Germany, France, Spain, NZ Reenter Full Lockdown,WaPo Criticizes Italy For Not Doing SoPosted by chalmetteowl on 10/28/20 at 4:46 pm to teke184
quote:now you know where New Orleanians got it from
Parisians treat their own countrymen like shite and think anyone not from Paris is a provincial hick even if they are from a city.
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