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ThinePreparedAni
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re: Article in American Thinker on Q for those who do not want to read the Q thread
Bumped to correlate
The articles are from early in the Trump admin

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NY Times

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What Is QAnon: Explaining the Internet Conspiracy Theory That Showed Up at a Trump Rally

Do you remember Pizzagate? It’s a little like that: a web of baseless conspiracy theories. And its supporters were highly visible at an event for the president in Florida.


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Here is the short version: Q claims to be a government insider exposing an entrenched, international bureaucracy that is secretly plotting all sorts of nefarious schemes against the Trump administration and its supporters. The character uses lingo that implies that he or she has a military or intelligence background.

It’s a stew of various, but connecting, conspiracy theories that generally hold Mr. Trump as a conquistador battling a cabal of anti-American saboteurs who have taken over government, industry, media and various other institutions of public life in a plan to … well, the overarching goals of the nefarious actors are not clear.





The Intercept

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TRUMP WHITE HOUSE WEIGHING PLANS FOR PRIVATE SPIES TO COUNTER “DEEP STATE” ENEMIES

Matthew Cole, Jeremy Scahill
December 4 2017, 9:24 p.m.



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THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION is considering a set of proposals developed by Blackwater founder Erik Prince and a retired CIA officer — with assistance from Oliver North, a key figure in the Iran-Contra scandal — to provide CIA Director Mike Pompeo and the White House with a global, private spy network that would circumvent official U.S. intelligence agencies, according to several current and former U.S. intelligence officials and others familiar with the proposals. The sources say the plans have been pitched to the White House as a means of countering “deep state” enemies in the intelligence community seeking to undermine Donald Trump’s presidency.

The creation of such a program raises the possibility that the effort would be used to create an intelligence apparatus to justify the Trump administration’s political agenda.

“Pompeo can’t trust the CIA bureaucracy, so we need to create this thing that reports just directly to him,” said a former senior U.S. intelligence official with firsthand knowledge of the proposals, in describing White House discussions. “It is a direct-action arm, totally off the books,” this person said, meaning the intelligence collected would not be shared with the rest of the CIA or the larger intelligence community. “The whole point is this is supposed to report to the president and Pompeo directly.”


Hmmm...

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The proposals would utilize an army of spies with no official cover in several countries deemed “denied areas” for current American intelligence personnel, including North Korea and Iran. The White House has also considered creating a new global rendition unit meant to capture terrorist suspects around the world, as well as a propaganda campaign in the Middle East and Europe to combat Islamic extremism and Iran.


Hmmm...

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“[Maguire] said there were people inside the CIA who joined in the previous eight years [under Obama] and inside the government, and they were failing to give the president the intelligence he needed,” said a person who was pitched by Maguire and other Amyntor personnel. To support his claim, Maguire told at least two people that National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, in coordination with a top official at the National Security Agency, authorized surveillance of Steven Bannon and Trump family members, including Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump. Adding to these unsubstantiated claims, Maguire told the potential donors he also had evidence McMaster used a burner phone to send information gathered through the surveillance to a facility in Cyprus owned by George Soros.


Lot of synchronicities from this article showing up lately
North Korea and Iran eh....

Reflected in "unlikely" events coming to fruition...
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VoxDawg
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re: Article in American Thinker on Q for those who do not want to read the Q thread
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Why is he your friend?


LOL, Travis View? He's one of the ringleaders of a virulent band of anti-Q "experts" that always get called on to weigh in whenever the MSM needs an "insider expert" in their coordinated smear pieces.

Not a friend, by any stretch.
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BoarEd
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re: Article in American Thinker on Q for those who do not want to read the Q thread
Here's a fun one. Everyone remember when Q was calling out Michael Avenatti? Even uploaded photos of a person outside his law office.

Guess what? Michael Avenatti is about to be arrested.



Ollieoxenfree99
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re: Article in American Thinker on Q for those who do not want to read the Q thread
This is such a tired argument. Believe or not, who cares?

It's the same cast of characters that jizz all over the thread about making fun.

Ignore it. Move on.


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LakeCharles
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re: Article in American Thinker on Q for those who do not want to read the Q thread
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I don't buy into it, but I don't discount it either




That's a bold statement.


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the808bass
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re: Article in American Thinker on Q for those who do not want to read the Q thread
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can assure you that the Q folks will massage any future news as an "accurate prediction" since they've put forth about 9 million conspiracy theories on everything from John Podesta to what's really inside a Stretch Armstrong doll.


It’s just a modern day oracle.


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TSLG
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re: Article in American Thinker on Q for those who do not want to read the Q thread
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can assure you that the Q folks will massage any future news as an "accurate prediction"

There are many different types of Q folks. Unfortunately, most of the best contributors in td's thread choose to participate other places, and the patients are running this asylum.

This thread gets worse each day.


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Asharad
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re: Article in American Thinker on Q for those who do not want to read the Q thread
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People will study this phenomena for decades to come.
Doubtful. Must people have never heard of Q.


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re: Article in American Thinker on Q for those who do not want to read the Q thread
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Must people have never heard of Q.


I'd wager that more people are at least familiar with the concept than you might think.

What those who are on the fence about the phenomenon ought to ponder is why quite literally every single MSM article involving Q or forced to be Q-adjacent is unequivocally negative. We're living in the most socially permissible society of humanity in history.

Every day, we're assailed with messages in the MSM that tell you, both overtly and covertly, that whatever you think, do, feel is 100% hunky-dory.

"Live your truth," we're told.

"If you see her, you can be her."

"A woman's right to choose"

"Love is love."

"Religion of Peace™"

Even Flat Earthers get their day in the sun.

We are in the center of a moral relativism maelstrom.

And yet...

Every. Single. MSM. Article covering Q works overtime right from the byline to make up the reader's mind that Q has to be false.

Why do you think that is?

Better than that - find me an MSM article about Q that is NOT editorially-negative about Q. Doesn't have to be effusive praise, I'll settle for some good, old-fashioned neutral perspective journalism.

Just the facts.
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re: Article in American Thinker on Q for those who do not want to read the Q thread
Dang Darth, you don't look like anyone would have imagined.


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re: Article in American Thinker on Q for those who do not want to read the Q thread
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Better than that - find me an MSM article about Q that is NOT editorially-negative about Q. Doesn't have to be effusive praise, I'll settle for some good, old-fashioned neutral perspective journalism. Just the facts.


Don't hold your breath.

Good work, V.


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re: Article in American Thinker on Q for those who do not want to read the Q thread
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What those who are on the fence about the phenomenon ought to ponder is why quite literally every single MSM article involving Q or forced to be Q-adjacent is unequivocally negative.


The same reason articles about flat earth and anti-vaccines are negative. Because they are retarded.


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re: Article in American Thinker on Q for those who do not want to read the Q thread
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The same reason articles about flat earth and anti-vaccines are negative. Because they are retarded.


Ha...yeah...and Open Borders with Universal Healthcare/Income Equality...ain't.

I'm done arguing to convince people that Evil runs this World, or that God exists...to those that Belief is not an "open proposition" (William James, Philosopher; "The Will to Believe"). No "open proposition...pissin in the wind. Better spending energy to go fishing. With a friend.


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re: Article in American Thinker on Q for those who do not want to read the Q thread
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Ha...yeah...and Open Borders with Universal Healthcare/Income Equality...ain't


Nice straw-man Boomer. Better get your decoder ring and Ovaltine out before Q drops some more crumbs.


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TigerFanInSouthland
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re: Article in American Thinker on Q for those who do not want to read the Q thread
I’m still not sure if those of y’all that actually post in that thread are serious or not.

Because I don’t think there’s a thing that has actually come to fruition that Q has spouted.
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BoarEd
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re: Article in American Thinker on Q for those who do not want to read the Q thread
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Because I don’t think there’s a thing that has actually come to fruition that Q has spouted.



I think there are a lot of idiots posting in this particular thread. Just my opinion.


kingbob
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re: Article in American Thinker on Q for those who do not want to read the Q thread
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I don’t think there’s a thing that has actually come to fruition that Q has spouted.


Called the north korean summit and even the city where it would be held more than 6 months before it was publicly announced. That’s the one blatantly obvious example q believers can hang their hats on.

As for the Q thread, over the course of it, there have been countless posters bringing up countless random theories and suppositions. Some are based on them trying to interpret q posts, and others just bringing off-beat ideas to the table because that thread is a sort of “safe place” to discuss off the wall stuff like aliens, time travel, forgotten ice age civilizations, weird unconventional nutrition and health theories, etc.

At the end of the day, it’s a lot like financial planners predicting 17 of the last 3 recessions. They throw so many ideas and hypos against the wall over the years that one or two are bound to stick eventually.

I don’t know if anything is true or not true, but I read and contribute there for the entertainment value. If it’s all fake, it was a fun ride. If it’s all real, it was a fun ride.

All I know is that I don’t feel comfortable completely dismissing any wacky idea out of hand anymore. After Wikileaks revealed that the government really was spying on all of us through our devices, that the military really admitted to using cloud seeding to rain on the Ho Chi Mihn trail during Vietnam, to see how our media has stopped even pretending to report even the most basic facts without obvious lies and bias, we are past the point of satire as a society. We are living in a post-credibility society right now. There is so much false information coming from “authorities” on subjects that there is no longer credible sources for verifiable factual information. So, I try to take everything in with an open, but critical eye, and reserve my own conclusions until after I’ve tried my best to do my own research. Jury’s still out on Q
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Yak
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re: Article in American Thinker on Q for those who do not want to read the Q thread
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I'm done arguing to convince people that Evil runs this World
I don't need to decode dates and timestamps from some dude posting quatrains on a troll infested, child porn producing, transexual obsessed image board to know that there's evil frickers trying to rule the world.


xxTIMMYxx
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re: Article in American Thinker on Q for those who do not want to read the Q thread
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Q is simply the Nostradamus of the digital age.. That being said, I don't buy into it, but I don't discount it either


I think there is massive corruption in our government. I think billionaires and the like across the globe pretty much control everything and use TV/internet to influence the masses. I do not, however, think Hillary and her ilk are sacrificing babies and all of that other crazy crap.


xxTIMMYxx
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re: Article in American Thinker on Q for those who do not want to read the Q thread
I also believe that the US let Pearl Harbor and 9/11 happen to drum up public support for war (or whatever their true initiative was). In both cases intelligence from several different countries warned it was going to happen and that it was imminent. I also believe our intelligence is far better than the likes of Italy and Spain, so we didn't exactly need their warnings. I just don't believe that our government is that incompetent.


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