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Article from Trump hating atty points out how thin Muellers case is on Manafort tampering

Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:02 pm
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:02 pm
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I yield to no one in my disdain for President Trump. And I certainly have no brief for Manafort

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All that said, I think that the special counsel's allegations of witness tampering are rather ... thin.

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Study that exhibit and you will see that Manafort was successful in speaking to one witness (Person D1) for exactly 1 minute and 24 seconds. He attempted three other phone calls that did not connect and he sent two WhatsApp messages—one a link to an article describing his indictment and the other saying "we should talk." When asked about the contents of the conversation with Manafort, according to paragraph 14 of the FBI declaration, Person D1 said that "Manafort stated that he wanted to give Person D1 a heads-up about Hapsburg" and "D1 immediately ended the call because he was concerned about the outreach."

Like, Ive been saying, Muellers case is failing on multiple fronts, so hes doubling down on Mueller by threatening him with jail on very, very, very thin evidence. His team is panicked, and knows the clock is running out before the DOJ shuts him down, due to its expressed goal not to interfere in pending elections (which obviously wasn't going to work anyway, according to recent polls)

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Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:04 pm to
It's going so bad that the Pitbull had to make up that Manafort was witness tampering

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:12 pm to
I think the NCAA had more on of LSU’s players accused of tampering than Mueller does.

And that LSU player was only trying to find out what was already said, not change statements.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:15 pm to
Marcy Wheeler's theory is that holding off on this filing may have been a premeditated strategy that Mueller was waiting to deploy until after Manafort pledged his last liquid properties as bond, which he finally did on May 25th., such that if Judge Jackson subsequently raises his Bond (as she's likely to do when he goes before her on June 15), he won't make it and Mueller will be able to apply additional leverage with Manafort in jail. Don't know if this is true, but it would potentially explain why Mueller delayed in acting on information he may have had since February.

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This post was edited on 6/6/18 at 5:16 pm
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:18 pm to
Posted by Kjun Tiger
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:18 pm to
Has Mueller verified that the witnesses actually exist?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:27 pm to
Short version - shithead waiting until Manafort pledged his final asset for bond to do this.

The idea was to nudge the scale, raise bail costs, and make it impossible for him to be free pending trials.


Short short version - he played a con game to twist Manafort’s nuts by getting him stuck in jail.
This post was edited on 6/6/18 at 5:28 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:29 pm to
He still hasn’t verified that the ham sandwiches he indicted exist.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:29 pm to
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Has Mueller verified that the witnesses actually exist?


Yes, though their identities are shielded in the filing which asserts the Mercury LLC witness interpreted Manafort's intention was to suborn perjury since Manafort sent him a text contradicting something the witness knew to be true (and that was alleged in the superseding February indictment - namely that the witness's company, likely Mercury LLC was lobbying in Washington on behalf of Ukraine's Russia-backed Party of Regions).

ETA: Teke gets it.
This post was edited on 6/6/18 at 5:30 pm
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:29 pm to
Oh, for the love of frick!
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
72931 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:30 pm to
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Yes, though their identities are shielded in the filing which asserts the Mercury LLC


Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:34 pm to
I know this isn't the FBI per say but all the leftists rooting this shite on need to realize that if you ever become a big enough target that they want to get they will find a way to get you.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56289 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:37 pm to
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Like, Ive been saying, Muellers case is failing on multiple fronts, so hes doubling down on Mueller by threatening him with jail on very, very, very thin evidence



...think you mean Manafort
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27845 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 6:25 pm to
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...think you mean Manafort

Mueller even has me screwing stuff up now
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
420873 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 6:36 pm to
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Marcy Wheeler's theory is that holding off on this filing may have been a premeditated strategy that Mueller was waiting to deploy until after Manafort pledged his last liquid properties as bond, which he finally did on May 25th., such that if Judge Jackson subsequently raises his Bond (as she's likely to do when he goes before her on June 15), he won't make it and Mueller will be able to apply additional leverage with Manafort in jail. Don't know if this is true, but it would potentially explain why Mueller delayed in acting on information he may have had since February.

that would be borderline unethical
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14164 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 6:44 pm to
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And that LSU player was only trying to find out what was already said, not change statements.

Do you still believe in the tooth fairy?
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 6:45 pm to
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would potentially explain why Mueller delayed in acting on information he may have had since February.


Pretty sure I read somewhere that all of the evidence was not all obtained until last month. Marcy is fun to read but she sometimes makes mistakes in her analysis.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
420873 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 6:48 pm to
i can't imagine a prosecutor would go scorched earth to that extent and be borderline unethical when you are supposed to have lots of other people to investigate prosecute. you'd be ensuring legal obstruction by the defense teams of any person who may be under scrutiny (Which with this expansive of a SC is literally thousands of people)

this claim is weak sauce and i've said it since i read the motion. i'm glad lawyers in the media are being honest about it
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 6:56 pm to
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Yes, though their identities are shielded in the filing which asserts the Mercury LLC witness interpreted Manafort's intention was to suborn perjury since Manafort sent him a text contradicting something the witness knew to be true (and that was alleged in the superseding February indictment - namely that the witness's company, likely Mercury LLC was lobbying in Washington on behalf of Ukraine's Russia-backed Party of Regions).


Mercury LLC is Company A in the filings and the Podesta Group is Company B (as previously reported). D1 & D2 in this filing are with Company D. I can't figure out who they are (still working on it ).

When are we going to hear about Company C tho?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 6:58 pm to
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i'm glad lawyers in the media are being honest about it


theyre starting to realize this could be, and probably will be if trump is still president in 3 years, them at some point in the future.
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