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Are we headed to a four party system?
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:04 am
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:04 am
Democrats, Republicans, far left and far right? Will we move to a “Coalition” system? Who knows, once the two party system falls apart, we may wind up with dozens of parties like Israel, for example. We are so divided, even within our own groups that it is probably inevitable.
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Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:05 am to Bamafig
Wouldn’t be the worst thing to be honest.
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:12 am to Bamafig
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Democrats
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far left
Explain to me the difference between these two
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:13 am to Bamafig
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Democrats, Republicans, far left and far right? Will we move to a “Coalition” system? Who knows, once the two party system falls apart, we may wind up with dozens of parties like Israel, for example. We are so divided, even within our own groups that it is probably inevitable.
Paul Ryan had an interesting take on this: basically said its much tougher to govern and get legislation through under a two party system. By necessity everything gets pretty watered down to meet in the middle and its why there is perceived gridlock in DC. Rather than being inefficient, DC is actually highly efficient which is why you have gridlock. He thought it would much easier under a parlimentary system where you have a number of parties and you can pull together to form a coalition. Trade would be an example where there would be a lot of common ground between the right and the left.
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:14 am to Bamafig
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two party system falls apart
Your whole premise fails here.
The uniparty (DC lifers) will continue to fight for the status quo and the useful idiots will support them.
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:14 am to Bamafig
No we’re headed to a one party communist dictatorship.
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:15 am to Bamafig
Better make it five—The Lion Party will be neither Republican nor “far right.”
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:15 am to AmishSamurai
There are very few and none with any real power fighting for more than 2 parties.
They only like the 2 because it gives them someone to help rally the base and blame as a bad guy
They only like the 2 because it gives them someone to help rally the base and blame as a bad guy
This post was edited on 9/9/20 at 9:16 am
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:16 am to Bamafig
I fail to see the divide in the Democratic Party. They have all embraced socialism, it's just that some are willing to admit it, and others are still lying.
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:17 am to boosiebadazz
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Wouldn’t be the worst thing to be honest.
Everybody hates the 2 party system until they see just how fricked the Britts are. Adding more parties does not fix it; it only muddies the corruption
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:24 am to Midget Death Squad
I like the idea of having more choices. I've got 20 types of shite tickets at walmart why only two geriatrics as real choices for president?
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:32 am to Bamafig
I'd love a 5 party system.
Moving from left to right (and I'll even give them nice names instead of what they really are):
Progressive Party (put your AOC, Bernie, and Elizabeth Warren Types here)
Democratic Party ( Pelosi, Schumer, Biden, JBE, etc.)
Libertarian Party (Sasse, Paul, etc.)
Republican Party (Crenshaw, McConnel, Ernst)
American First Party (Trump)
i'd struggle where to put people like Cruz.
Moving from left to right (and I'll even give them nice names instead of what they really are):
Progressive Party (put your AOC, Bernie, and Elizabeth Warren Types here)
Democratic Party ( Pelosi, Schumer, Biden, JBE, etc.)
Libertarian Party (Sasse, Paul, etc.)
Republican Party (Crenshaw, McConnel, Ernst)
American First Party (Trump)
i'd struggle where to put people like Cruz.
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:33 am to Bamafig
No. IMHO, we are headed towards a One Party system.
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:42 am to kmdawg17
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Explain to me the difference between these two
Well to be fair, most Democrats and liberals claim there’s no difference between the far right and the Republican Party.
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:44 am to Bamafig
quote:No.
Are we headed to a four party system?
Too many structural impediments, at both the state AND federal level.
As Boosie says, it would be nice ... but ....
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:44 am to Bamafig
There are already factions within each party. Republicans have neo cons, establishment Republicans, conservative, and right leaning libertarian. The left has neo libs, establishment dems, and the socialist/communist faction of the Party. It is inevitable and I thought it was going to happen after Romney lost the election. When Biden loses I am convinced this will break the Democrat Party and post Trump I think the Republican Party will also break.
This post was edited on 9/9/20 at 10:17 am
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:52 am to Bamafig
I think it would make for a better government if we had a 4+ party system. But, at most you will see factions spin off from the staple parties, and those factions will eventually lose momentum and fail.
Another possibility is the left will continue to get extreme, and you will have some of the more moderate democrats turn to independents or republicans until something/someone forces them back towards "normalcy"
Another possibility is the left will continue to get extreme, and you will have some of the more moderate democrats turn to independents or republicans until something/someone forces them back towards "normalcy"
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:54 am to Bamafig
I hope so, only Americans are stupid enough to limit our choices to 2 parties.
This post was edited on 9/9/20 at 9:55 am
Posted on 9/9/20 at 10:18 am to Bamafig
It is hard to believe the GOP will split. I can see the Democrats splitting. The progressive side splitting off would be similar to how Bernie and Angus King are Independents, but still caucus with the Democrats.
Angus King would be one of the more conservative Democrats. He voted with Democrats only 43% of the time. Bernie would be on the progressive side.
The only thing that keeps Angus a Democrat is his stance on abortion.
Angus King would be one of the more conservative Democrats. He voted with Democrats only 43% of the time. Bernie would be on the progressive side.
The only thing that keeps Angus a Democrat is his stance on abortion.
This post was edited on 9/9/20 at 10:20 am
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