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Are There Any "Well Regulated Militia" of a 2nd Amendment Sort

Posted on 6/4/22 at 2:56 am
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16369 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 2:56 am
To be found?

Seems like this is THE missing piece of the 'defense against tyranny' puzzle.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21427 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 3:23 am to
My take is that armed citizens need the ability to form one when needed.
Posted by TideHater
Orange Beach AL
Member since May 2007
19706 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:11 am to
Lot of 3% III militia grooups but they are either undereducated rednecks or meth heads as far as I can tell. Not a lot of organization.
Posted by Pvt Hudson
Member since Jan 2013
3536 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 7:03 am to
While a well-regulated militia is mentioned in the 2nd, it is the right of the PEOPLE that shall not be infringed.

The militia has nothing to do with your right.
Posted by SagesSon
Member since Apr 2019
753 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 7:10 am to
Well, I guess you can count Skinheads, Antifa, MS-13, Crips, Bloods, and a plethora of urban gangs; plus a few groups of 'redneckersons' and cartelists and drug defenders(meth heads)
And if the Scouts still have a marksmanship badge, then add them in there too.
Hell, hunting clubs are organized for the most part.

So, yep. There are quite of number of 2nd Amendment groups.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33848 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 7:11 am to
This certainly is the picture the media wants to portray. They are the blue hairs of the right
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19092 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 7:13 am to
Well regulated meant disciplined and effective.
Posted by FlyingTiger1955
Member since Jan 2019
5765 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 7:14 am to
I’m not sure where I read it, but I believe the Founding Fathers envisioned all males of fighting ages to be the militia. All males were supposed to have weapons so that they could respond to a threat.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8823 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 7:17 am to
State militias have basically been legislated out of existence and it started only a few years into this country and culminatong with the Insurrection Act of 1807. Then Lincoln pretty much killed any form of a state uprising ever again.
Posted by BillyGibbons
St. Somewhere
Member since Mar 2020
649 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 7:19 am to
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Well regulated meant disciplined and effective.


This.

“Well Regulated” in this context was more about an individual’s proficiency with arms, not government’s oversight.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 7:29 am to
Cannot get much more clear than US code;

Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15528 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 7:32 am to
The National Guard is basically owned by the Feds, right? Seems pointless as a militia with the purpose of state self-defense.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/4/22 at 7:37 am to
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I’m not sure where I read it, but I believe the Founding Fathers envisioned all males of fighting ages to be the militia. All males were supposed to have weapons so that they could respond to a threat.
Correct.

Highly recommend everyone read a period piece (published in 1782) titled “Tracts, Concerning the Ancient and only True Legal Means of National Defence, by a Free Militia” by Granville Sharp. It is a bit of a difficult read because it is written in period language. However, truly enlightening about what the intent and purpose of arming the populace. You can make the argument that this is no longer a necessity (I wholeheartedly disagree), but you cannot make the argument that the purpose and intent is not clear.

Online version
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 6/4/22 at 7:41 am to
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The National Guard is basically owned by the Feds, right?
This is Title 10 (federal level). With the caveats listed, every male citizen aged 17-45 (who is not a member of the National Guard) is a member of the unorganized militia. The National Guard is under Title 32 of US code (state level).

The National Guard is held hostage (oftentimes) by the Army and Air Force because of funding (weapons platforms, modernization, pay, et al). They can also be federalized as necessary. It makes for a very delicate balance.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
7494 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 7:45 am to
You can't have a Militia if citizens aren't allowed to have guns..
Posted by beulahland
Little D'arbonne
Member since Jan 2013
3567 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 7:47 am to
I became a Minute Man at the age of 16.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
8361 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 7:49 am to
The armed citizens are the militia against gooberment tyranny. The gooberment is supposed to serve the citizens and when they do not .....
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 7:50 am to
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You can't have a Militia if citizens aren't allowed to have guns..
Correct. That is why they are trying to disarm the general population.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 8:03 am to
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Cannot get much more clear than US code;
That statute tells us a great deal about what a late-20th century legislature considered the term “militia“ to mean. It tells us very little about what a late-18th century draftsman intended.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67635 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 8:04 am to
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You can't have a Militia if citizens aren't allowed to have guns..


they can always throw rocks
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