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re: Appears the beheaded babies is true

Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:12 am to
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:12 am to
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can you 100% factually prove to me that you have never killed babies?

Are you arguing that children weren’t killed? Was it all an Alex Jones - Sandy Hook conspiracy?

Or just that they weren’t decapitated?

Because if you acknowledge question 1 I’m not sure how or why question 2 matters much?

What if one was decapitated and the rest were shot in the head?

Who frigging cares?! They’re all dead because Hamas are acting like subhuman demons.
Posted by LaMigra
Member since Nov 2022
2704 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:12 am to
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I'm just asking you, politely, to post one sensible thing on this thread.


Come again??
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465526 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:13 am to
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somehow this nuance (not even really nuance, but i'll give them the benefit of the doubt) is missed on these mouth breathers.


Because they are in a full blown emotional meltdown, which is understandable, but dangerous because of this exact potential scenario (using propaganda for the emotional thinkers to get them to react in a certain way).

They don't realize it, but they're showing exactly why critical, non-emotional thinking is most necessary in times like this.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465526 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:14 am to
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this thread is bonkers. we have what amounts to a group of people who already believe that Hamas is an evil terrorist organization that has factually and verifiably committed atrocities and should pay severely for those crimes being screamed at because we question the factual basis of whether one specific atrocity actually occurred.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465526 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:15 am to
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Are you arguing that children weren’t killed?

Like, in the entire operation? Everyone agrees children were killed.

That's not the point.

quote:

Because if you acknowledge question 1 I’m not sure how or why question 2 matters much?

I think a better framing is, given all the verified atrocities, why do certain people cling to defend the veracity of a shaky story about babies being beheaded?
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8047 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:15 am to
quote:

Are you arguing that children weren’t killed? Was it all an Alex Jones - Sandy Hook conspiracy?

Or just that they weren’t decapitated?

Because if you acknowledge question 1 I’m not sure how or why question 2 matters much?

What if one was decapitated and the rest were shot in the head?

Who frigging cares?! They’re all dead because Hamas are acting like subhuman demons.

i am not arguing anything except to say that i have not seen factual evidence that children were beheaded.

and i care, because i care about things like facts.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:16 am to
No surprise at all to see you up in here white knighting for savages
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465526 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:16 am to
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No surprise at all to see you up in here white knighting for savages


Wait...WHAT?

Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:18 am to
Babies were on bayonets, according to a nurse in Kuwait back in the first Gulf War. She even testified before Congress.

Turns out, it was all bullshite, and the girl who testified was the daughter of a Kuwaiti diplomat.

This claim about babies may be true, but it is isn't proven. People are right to be skeptical, and the ones who aren't are just emotional retards, getting adrenaline-infused confirmation bias straight into their veins.

Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8047 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:19 am to
and also, yeah, frankly, there is a difference between getting shot in the head and decapitated. we are talking degrees of atrocity here, but there is a difference between someone whose blood is up who is pumping rounds into a groups of people and the evil it takes to pause, consider, and remove an infant's head with a blade. there is a difference, and facts matter.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
76898 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:19 am to
I get being skeptical of the media, but do some of you actually believe that these terrorist groups have some ethical line they won't cross? Anyone above the age of 12 and not having been living under a rock should know that we are dealing with ruthless barbarians who would have no problem beheading Jewish babies.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:19 am to
NC, Oren Ziv described as Arabic

"heard it from soldiers" Army spokesperson (not named) said something. What journalist is not going to name an Israeli spokesperson and just say, he didn't mention anything about it, and then claim he said "We cannot confirm anything at this point".

And then states they are false claims, but adds "story still unfolding, need to verify" How can he call it false claims if nothing has been verified or confirmed?

He also says "sadly Israel will use it to escalate bombings", but Israel was already bombing and plans for major incursion into Gaza before the story broke.

Not very credible reporting in my opinion.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:19 am to
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This claim about babies may be true, but it is isn't proven.


To be clear, it doesn't really matter if it's true. That's the point that so many of you are missing.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:19 am to
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Yeah, videos released already tell me that killing and beheading babies wouldn't be an outrageous claim for these people But more of us need a little more evidence.
These things can be true at the same time:
1) These people are barbarians and are likely capable of these reported atrocities.
2) Failure to be discerning when consuming wartime news can lead to retribution for actions that didn’t occur. It can allow for opportunists to push an agenda that doesn’t benefit America and is based on lies. This was the case with the Iraq war.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465526 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:19 am to
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People are right to be skeptical, and the ones who aren't are just emotional retards, getting adrenaline-infused confirmation bias straight into their veins.


Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:20 am to
quote:

Are you arguing that children weren’t killed? Was it all an Alex Jones - Sandy Hook conspira


Israel kills Palestinian children all the time, every year.

But those Palestinian children are sub-humans in your worldview, so its cool. Also, your news media doesn't tell you to give a shite about it, so you don't care.

It's like all the Evangelicals who never gave a shite about Armenian genocide, suddenly up in arms about what their pastors and media tell them to care about.

Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:21 am to
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To be clear, it doesn't really matter if it's true. That's the point that so many of you are missing.


Expound.

I've also heard the "reports" of women being gang-raped next to dead bodies at a music festival. You're telling me in this age with cameras literally everywhere, none of that footage has wound up on 4-Chan or any of those types of sites?

You're telling us to trust and obey the media. Good for you.
Posted by LaMigra
Member since Nov 2022
2704 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:22 am to
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To be clear, it doesn't really matter if it's true. That's the point that so many of you are missing.


Go on…..
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28084 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:22 am to
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Are you arguing that children weren’t killed?



I think the question is more about the deliberate targeting of babies.

And about people blindly believing dubious claims of "journalists" to have seen pictures and videos that they are unable to produce.
This post was edited on 10/11/23 at 9:25 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:25 am to
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You're telling us to trust and obey the media. Good for you.


Only a retard could look at what I wrote and come to this conclusion.

Good for you.
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