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AOC says we need to look at prison abolition

Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Kusagari12
Member since Sep 2016
296 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:30 pm
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC
Mass incarceration is our American reality. It is a system whose logic evolved from the same lineage as Jim Crow, American apartheid, & slavery.

To end it, we have to change.

That means we need to have a real conversation about decarceration & prison abolition in this country.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC
I know the term “prison abolition” is breaking some people’s brains. The right is already freaking out.

Yet the US incarcerates more than anywhere in the world.

We have more than enough room to close many of our prisons and explore just alternatives to incarceration.

/1

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC
First of all, many people in jailed or in prison don’t belong there at all.

Whether it’s punitive sentencing for marijuana possession or jailing people for their poverty & letting the rich free through systems like cash bail, we wrongly incarcerate far, far too many people.

/2

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC
Secondly, our prison & jail system is so large bc we use them as de facto mental hospitals, homeless shelters, & detox centers instead of *actually* investing in... mental health, housing, edu, & rehab.

If we invested meaningfully, what do you think would happen to crime?

/3

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC
Lastly, people tend to say “what do you do with all the violent people?” as a defense for incarcerating millions.

Our lawmaking process means we come to solutions together, &either way we should work to an end where our prison system is dramatically smaller than it is today.

/4


LINK

Why. Just why.
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:31 pm to
The face of the Democrat party
Posted by SG_Geaux
1 Post
Member since Aug 2004
77923 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:31 pm to
She is right. We should just put a lot more people to death and cut off hands and shite.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134839 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:31 pm to
This is the leader of the left, folks
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98699 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

explore just alternatives to incarceration


Euthanasia
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

explore just alternatives to incarceration.

Like executions? I can dig it

Any time a leftist says the words
quote:

Jim Crow

I usually stop right there
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:32 pm to
But then what does she want to do with Trump?

Kook left bitches (her and Maxine) need to coordinate they shite
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61090 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

Lastly, people tend to say “what do you do with all the violent people?” as a defense for incarcerating millions.

Our lawmaking process means we come to solutions together, &either way we should work to an end where our prison system is dramatically smaller than it is today.



Question: "So what do we do with violent people?"

AOC: "We just get together and make solutions guys!:)"




So she has no solutions, just no more prisons.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24717 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:34 pm to
If we don't need them she should have no problem living in one for a few weeks.
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
7304 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:35 pm to
She needs a psychiatric evaluation.
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
4939 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:35 pm to
She's writing every GOP ad that you're going to see for the next 13 months.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

Question: "So what do we do with violent people?"

AOC: "We need to have a conversation"

Fixed it
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
4939 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:38 pm to
Somebody has to eat all those babies. Who's gonna do it? You?! You, Lietenant Weinberg?!
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17319 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:38 pm to
She might have a point here. Since our political class are clearly operating above the law, why should common folks be incarcerated for relatively nothing in comparison to the treason that our politicians commit on a daily basis.

Now, the liberal myth that prisons are full of people who had a bag of weed is just bullshite.

As many here know, I’ve been a Probation and Parole Officer for 30 years and I can tell you first hand that we have a serious problem of over sentencing offenders. Alternative sentencing should be vastly expanded and funded to provide legitimate diversionary programs. Trust me, it is not.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:38 pm to
What the frick.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30016 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

Why. Just why.


I agree.
She can just deliver the babies she wants eaten to the jails. They don’t have to come out for that.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:40 pm to
I think she baited you guys with the phrase "prison abolition" so you'd return back to being against decrimilination of victimless crimes and against removing the influence of cash.

I have no idea how to do any of that without a bunch of unintended consequences but i you fell right into the trap narrative she set for you.
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6835 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

That means we need to have a real conversation about decarceration & prison abolition in this country. 


Nice idea, except there's thing called evil.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26620 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

Secondly, our prison & jail system is so large bc we use them as de facto mental hospitals, homeless shelters, & detox centers instead of *actually* investing in... mental health, housing, edu, & rehab.

If we invested meaningfully, what do you think would happen to crime?


Wasn't the left the party to do away with mental hospitals and asylums?

I could be wrong.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51449 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:41 pm to
We can abolish prisons if we make murder legal. We'll just have a 24/7/365 Purge. Anyone who commits a crime against another is fair game.




What a fricking maroon.
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