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re: Anyone else find it odd NO DEMS WITH COVID?

Posted on 10/3/20 at 10:36 am to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21760 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 10:36 am to
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They asked for articles that show they work. There they are. Then people circle back to “who cares if they work, you want me to wear them forever?” Typical

They don’t show they work. Maybe you’re a beautician or serve food (which is fine, not ridiculing anybody) and don’t know what those studies actually establish, but they don’t do what you have been led to believe they do.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44728 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 10:39 am to
I learned to evaluate medical articles in med school, but thanks.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44728 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 10:41 am to
Look at all of those “idiot” physicians with masks on for Trump’s press conference. Dumbass
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21760 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 10:45 am to
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I learned to evaluate medical articles in med school, but thanks

What f’n med school? You literally just posted a “study” where they used a wet wash cloth as a mask and suggested it was proof of the efficacy of a handkerchief against COVID spread.

If you really are an MD, do you honestly believe that study speaks one iota on the subject?
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21760 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 10:47 am to
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Look at all of those “idiot” physicians with masks on for Trump’s press conference. Dumbass

They must have gone to the same medical school as you. Or maybe this is all more about politics than medicine, which is actually the case.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44728 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 10:48 am to
I posted 4 articles. You didn’t read them (or don’t have the ability to analyze them.....which is most likely).
This post was edited on 10/3/20 at 10:50 am
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35053 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 10:51 am to
Skin, I've often wondered why every family practice clinic or doctor's office I've been in doesn't feature all staff wearing masks. One would think it would be routine. Why don't they?
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21760 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 10:56 am to
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I posted 4 articles. You didn’t read them

If you’re an MD, I’m thinking you’re the one that hasn’t read them.

I’ve read them before. I opened your links to make sure they’re the same ones posted on this site a hundred times before, and you didn’t fail me. They were. The wet wash cloth. The “there’s nothing that says masks don’t work so it doesn’t hurt to try them” study. The study that analyzes analyses of infection rate in communities that use mask, as if masking was the only thing that happened in said communities.

Yeah, I read them. I’m just surprised that an MD could read them and think they are proof of the efficacy of masking versus COVID, particularly when held up in contrast to a shitload of real life experience in this country over the las six months.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18110 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 10:58 am to
It is weird... especially the local Democrat politicians who were out marching with thousands of rioters.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44728 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 10:59 am to
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real life experience in this country over the las six months.


You don’t know how to interpret that either.

But give me one outlier......something about Hawaii yada yada
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
29176 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 11:01 am to
dims have the Chinese vaccine.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44728 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 11:01 am to
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Skin, I've often wondered why every family practice clinic or doctor's office I've been in doesn't feature all staff wearing masks. One would think it would be routine. Why don't they?


So are you going with a less than one percent thing over a 99 percent thing?

Maybe that person already had it and is going with the likelihood that they won’t get it again for next 3 months or so.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21760 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 11:07 am to
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I posted 4 articles. You didn’t read them (or don’t have the ability to analyze them.....which is most likely).

Then why don’t you answer my question? Don’t be afraid, Mr Science/MD.

Do you believe a study using a wet wash cloth as the mask measuring non-aerosolized spray means frick all as proof that a handkerchief tied across a face stops COVID spread?

Time to see if you’re an honest MD or retarded.

Answer the question.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44728 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 11:10 am to
One scientific article doesn’t answer all questions and isn’t supposed to. You put them all together.

I have never advocated for a handkerchief. I have always advocated for a surgical mask.
This post was edited on 10/3/20 at 11:11 am
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35053 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 11:10 am to
Nah, it was a serious question, and I will be straightforward in saying that I have some question as to whether the whole mask ordeal has been artificially and unjustifiably blown out of proportion in order to create a convenient bad guy....the guy who doesn't wear the mask. But is that truly justified? I don't know personally, but it is knocking around in this head of mine.

I'm also not settled on the premise that surface contact spread isn't equal or nearly equal to the risk factor that no mask is. They still push the whole "wash hands chronically; disinfect your surfaces chronically" thing, yet it's all masks, all the time. Little to no mention of surface contact spread. And from my reading of the CDC website on the matter, "We are still learning about how the virus spreads and the severity of illness it causes." Which doesn't lead me to believe that surface contact is a non-issue.

Just honest curiosities, that's all. Hit and run rhetoric isn't my intention.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/3/20 at 11:12 am to
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I learned to evaluate medical articles in med school, but thanks.



Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44728 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 11:14 am to
Surface contact was overblown. They got that wrong
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35053 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 11:18 am to
But are some cases contracted via surface contact or no? I assume some are, but I just wonder the percentage split is. Ultimately, I'm pretty curious whether a person could religiously wear a mask yet still contract covid from surface contact.
This post was edited on 10/3/20 at 11:19 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66293 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 11:20 am to
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Ultimately, I'm pretty curious whether a person could religiously wear a mask yet still contract covid from surface contact.


I wear a mask everywhere because my job has required it since March and my city has been under a mandatory mask mandate and I caught Covid mid July.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76485 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 11:21 am to
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But are some cases contracted via surface contact or no? I assume some are, but I just wonder the percentage split is. Ultimately, I'm pretty curious whether a person could religiously wear a mask yet still contract covid from surface contact.
I have to wear a mask every day at work, with all patient interactions, and when walking the halls, and I still caught it.
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